Who Has Got the Possibility of Entering Heaven? (paradise, churches, beliefs)

[Neil Turan]

This is a question, and I Will Try to answer it, and I want to start a discussion about it with you guys and everyone.

First of all, I I will hurt anyone, I Ask the Almighty God to forgive my sins, and Everything is I Think...

I will now start and answering this question.

In Christianity, Anno 2008, there are about 204 christian denominations, who call themselves Churches or Christians, for example, the Roman Catholic Church.

In Christianity there are 8 Big Groups:

1. Anabaptism, for example Amish
2. Anglicanism, for example American Anglican Church
3. Assyrian, for example the Assyrian Church of the East,
4. Catholicism, for example the Roman Catholic Church
5. Eastern Orthodox, for example the Russian Orthodox Church
6. Oriental Orthodox, for example my church, the Syriac Catholic Church of Antioch
7. Protestantism, for example Reformed
8. Restorationism, for example Jehova´s Witnesses

Okay, these are the 8 Groups of Christianity, that Combine Christianity Altogether.

I belief, that every church, that has not 7 sacraments, in its belief, it is not the true church or church of God, and with that Church you cannot enter Heaven.

I think, and I think I am Right, that only the churches of Group 4 (Catholicism), Group 5 (Eastern Orthodox) and Group 6 (Oriental Orthodox) do have a proper use of the Seven Sacraments in their Church, with other sayings, I Mean, If a Church doesn´t have 7 sacraments, then with that church you cannot enter heaven, and I do belief so that only Catholic and Orthodox People (Group 4, 5, 6) can enter Heaven, based on the Seven Sacraments.

The One, who is in Group 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, are in great danger, I suppose, there are five points, which I think you can make it to heaven

1. First of all, You must be attached to a Church, who is belonging to the Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox or Oriental Orthodox, simply: you must be Catholic or Orthodox
2. Second you must have had the Sacrament of Baptism
3. Third of All you must have had the Sacrament of Confirmation
4. Fourd of All you must have had the Sacrament of Penance
5. Fifth of All you must have had the Sacrament of the Eucharist.

I want to explain to you, with Bible citations, why the Church, has got 7 sacraments, because Jesus Himself is the Establisher of the Sacraments of the Church, I belief.

Im looking forward to your replys, also tell me in which of the eight groups you are in.

[Neil Turan]

6. Oriental Orthodox, for example my church, the Syriac Catholic Church of Antioch

My church is the Syriac Orthodox Church of Antioch, and I do not mean the Syriac Catholic Church, that is another Church, belonging to Catholicism.

[GloryB]

Who Has Got the Possibility of Entering Heaven?

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

I have to keep it simple because I don't know a lot of fancy terms. I didn't even know there were 8 groups.

[CelticLady1]

Ah yes, you are the young man who believes that only Catholics and Orthodox will go to heaven. Well, you are obviously very sincere, and certainly, you are entitled to your beliefs, but, oddly enough, I have never read in scripture where Jesus said that. In fact, he never mentioned denominations, or sacraments, at all, much less as prerequisites to get into heaven. I find it rather strange that, if Catholic and Orthodox churches were the only way to get to heaven, that Jesus didn't say exactly that.

However, in all fairness, I would be curious to read your arguments. I'd like to see where you get the idea that we must have seven sacraments, and be a Catholic or Orthodox. I'm always curious about what other people believe and why. By the way, what, exactly, is the difference between Catholic and Orthodox?

[Fundamentalist]

Man! I think I will join Islam, it is much easier than this.

[Asthedeer]

God is in no group!!

Act 10:34Then Peter opened [his] mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:


Rev 18:4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

[Towhee]

Please give scripture, chapters and verses. for "7 sacraments". Or even a scripture that mentions anything called a 'sacrament'.

[Neil Turan]

Ok.

We will begin with the baptism.

Baptism is mainly based on this:

I think/Sorry

16Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

Do you all believe this??

[Neil Turan]

And tomorrow I will fly to Switserland, there is a Wedding, my Cousin, i will return on sunday, i think i will post more when it is monday ok...this is the first about the baptism, what do you all think about this, do you believe this one? OR NOT? and why you do or why you don´t?

Think/Sorry

[CelticLady1]

Originally Posted by Neil Turan

Ok.

We will begin with the baptism.

Baptism is mainly based on this:

I think/Sorry

16Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

Do you all believe this??

Baptism is an outward symbol; it has nothing to do with salvation. The thief on the cross was never baptized, and yet was assured by Jesus that he would be with him in Paradise. I see no indication in the passage you quoted that Jesus is telling anyone that they must be baptized in order to enter heaven. What I see is Jesus telling his disciples to baptize believers, and to teach them obedience. He said nothing about baptism being a sacrament, or a necessity for salvation.