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Old 03-31-2009, 10:28 AM
 
Location: USA
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He is in an openly gay relationship. He has denied the truth of God for the lie of the flesh. He has possibly destroyed not only his witness but the faith of many who looked to him for guidance. He has made much of his music out to be a lie. He must repent and turn to the Lord, conquer his strongholds resist temptation and be the witness God calls him to be. He has a great opportunity here and he is destroying it.
If one's faith was in this man, then their faith was misplaced. Our faith is to be in one place only, and that is in Jesus Christ.

 
Old 03-31-2009, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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If one's faith was in this man, then their faith was misplaced. Our faith is to be in one place only, and that is in Jesus Christ.
I understand that but many do not. With this man coming out and stating that he does not believe homosexuality is a sin then he is denying the truth and teaching a lie. We must be concerned for those of weak faith as well as this man himself.
 
Old 03-31-2009, 12:02 PM
 
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So much fear.
 
Old 03-31-2009, 12:15 PM
 
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I understand that but many do not. With this man coming out and stating that he does not believe homosexuality is a sin then he is denying the truth and teaching a lie. We must be concerned for those of weak faith as well as this man himself.
Lots of people teach lies. We cannot control what others do, we can only control what we do.

If many do not look to Jesus Christ, and put their faith in him, and put it in an entertainer/singer, as you said, they are of misplaced faith, then they do not have a relationship with the Lord, anyway.

That is not casting them aside with no feeling, that is stating that faith in the Lord is the only thing that saves us.
 
Old 03-31-2009, 12:15 PM
 
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So much fear.
We do not fear my friend. We only follow scripture. If you want to condemn us then condemn us for that.
 
Old 03-31-2009, 12:18 PM
 
Location: South Africa
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and you exemplifie [sic] Christ? hmmmm. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't that self righteous statement?
No. I am not the one judging Ray, you are. Should that not be the domain of God?

Really gonna suck one day when you discover all is forgiven yet you bear this burden in your heart - what a waste.
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after all are you not a sinner just like me?
By George I think he is getting it.
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Why don't you use examples from the bible instead of sci-fi TV?
Will it help? Seems like you pretty much stuck in the OT and the teaching's of Jesus goes whoosh over your head.

Remember that beam I gave you way back when? It appears to have set roots down and it sprouting leaves - you know - know them by their fruit? Needs some pruning don't you think?
 
Old 03-31-2009, 12:20 PM
 
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We do not fear my friend. We only follow scripture. If you want to condemn us then condemn us for that.
What would you do if, in the future, a hostile government bodies destroys all Bibles? How would you know what to do?
 
Old 03-31-2009, 12:30 PM
 
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What would you do if, in the future, a hostile government bodies destroys all Bibles? How would you know what to do?
That's kind of irrelevant. The bible is God's words and it was here before the first bible was printed during that time He sent prophets, teachers, elders etc.... to teach the word of God.
 
Old 03-31-2009, 12:34 PM
 
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No. I am not the one judging Ray, you are. Should that not be the domain of God?

Really gonna suck one day when you discover all is forgiven yet you bear this burden in your heart - what a waste.
By George I think he is getting it.
Will it help? Seems like you pretty much stuck in the OT and the teaching's of Jesus goes whoosh over your head.

Remember that beam I gave you way back when? It appears to have set roots down and it sprouting leaves - you know - know them by their fruit? Needs some pruning don't you think?
Seeker you are JUDGING ME! Judging salvation is God's domain other than that we can judge; we can't be hypocrites in our judging because we will be judged the same way we judge. The bible is very clear that Ray is already judged we are only relaying the message.
 
Old 03-31-2009, 12:34 PM
 
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That's kind of irrelevant. The bible is God's words and it was here before the first bible was printed which is why he sent prophets, teachers, elders etc.... to teach the word of God.
Why is it irrelevant? If you do not have a Bible in your hand, if at some future point, there is destruction of all Bibles, at government mandate, how would you know what to do, as a Christian?
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