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Old 03-31-2009, 09:12 AM
 
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God does not hate. Only humans do who construct an image of God to reflect their own biases.

You are advocating Ray commit one sin - thou shalt not lie - in favor of what you perceive to be another sin - thou shalt not... oh wait. homosexuality isn't in the 10 commandments.

Therefore, you are not following God. You are trying to define God to fit your will.
God hates sin, it is very clear in the bible. We are all sinners but one cannot live a life of sin and enter the kingdom of God. You are the one who is not following scripture and creating a God to fit your needs and wants by not having scripture to back you.

 
Old 03-31-2009, 09:14 AM
 
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Don't blur the line of truth. The truth is we are all sinners and the ones that don't repent are going to hell. If Ray continues on this path then he is not repenting.
I'm not sure what you mean by "don't blue the line of truth." Did you not read what I posted on this thread....I said that the Lord is about truth, and He is.

We should always be truthful about who we are.
 
Old 03-31-2009, 09:14 AM
 
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I feel sorrow for you that you feel you are so worthless and need to create an external condemning force to justify a reason for your emptiness. But, that is for you to overcome.

At least you admit that you want Ray to commit the sin of lying, so he is codemned to your Hell no matter what he does. Either he lies about who he is, or he lies about who he isn't.

Please provide a quotation from the original Bible in the original language (no King James version or any other interpretation written by men) stating explicitly that "God hates".
 
Old 03-31-2009, 09:16 AM
 
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God hates sin, it is very clear in the bible. We are all sinners but one cannot live a life of sin and enter the kingdom of God. You are the one who is not following scripture and creating a God to fit your needs and wants by not having scripture to back you.
Yes, God hates sin. That's why the Lord came, because we are not able, as humans, to live under the law. None of us can keep the law.

That's why He came to us.
 
Old 03-31-2009, 09:16 AM
 
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At least this artist has found peace and a closer relationship with God by embracing his homosexuality.

God will truly bless him for overcoming oppression and bigotry to embrace who God made him to be.
 
Old 03-31-2009, 09:17 AM
 
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I'm not sure what you mean by "don't blue the line of truth." Did you not read what I posted on this thread....I said that the Lord is about truth, and He is.

We should always be truthful about who we are.
by showing Ray is somehow in God's will just because he is truthful about who he is and that's great, the problem is what is he doing with the truth? is he repenting?
 
Old 03-31-2009, 09:20 AM
 
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by showing Ray is somehow in God's will just because he is truthful about who he is and that's great, the problem is what is he doing with the truth? is he repenting?
I don't know if he is repenting of anything or not. I don't waste the time, trying to figure out someone else's spiritual condition. Why would I?
 
Old 03-31-2009, 09:20 AM
 
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At least this artist has found peace and a closer relationship with God by embracing his homosexuality.

God will truly bless him for overcoming oppression and bigotry to embrace who God made him to be.
What verse is that? You resort to the lamo liberal tactics of calling people a bigot (I was a liberal, as a black liberal I used the same rhetoric- I know the game). I hate to tell you this but that is self righteous, you yourself are a sinner and you are no better than me in the eyes of God.
 
Old 03-31-2009, 09:23 AM
 
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I don't know if he is repenting of anything or not. I don't waste the time, trying to figure out someone else's spiritual condition. Why would I?
Why do you constantly shift the argument. He made it public, not us. We are commanded to help our brothers and sisters find their way back to God. We love Ray but in love we must practice church discipline as the bible says.
 
Old 03-31-2009, 09:34 AM
 
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As a gay Christian I say good for Ray!
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