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Old 09-09-2008, 09:12 PM
 
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Is it wrong to want to go to Heaven more because of the perfect Utopia/Kingdom than because of being with God?????
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:30 PM
 
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Is it wrong to want to go to Heaven more because of the perfect Utopia/Kingdom than because of being with God?????
I don't think that wanting God's promises of perfection are wrong in any way. I wish more people believed it and desired it.

As you grow in your walk with God, so will your love for Him and the desire to be with Him. After all, He is the one providing Heaven.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:06 PM
 
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Is it wrong to want to go to Heaven more because of the perfect Utopia/Kingdom than because of being with God?????
The two causes you mention are synonymous.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:22 PM
 
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oh ok. thank you guys!
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Old 09-09-2008, 11:06 PM
 
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Well, I was kinda thinking something like Firstborn888 mentioned, although perhaps I have a bit of a different take on it. I don't necessarily think God Himself is synonymous with His creation, but certainly I believe the utopia/paradise of Heaven is a reflection of who/what He is. Kinda like a manifestation of all His good and perfect characteristics, but separate from Himself.

City_boi, when you're in a relationship with someone, why are you in a relationship with them? Is it not, in great part, because of how it makes you feel and what you "get out of it"? I think that in experiencing all the utopian elements of the paradise, we will actually be enveloped in an expression of God. Wanting to experience peace, tranquility, ultimate love, security and acceptance are all desires for wanting to experience God Himself. Jesus said we can't even imagine in our hearts the things that God has waiting for those who love Him. Along with that, He stated there were many mansions in His Father's house, and that He was going to prepare a place for us. No matter what we are "doing" in Heaven, it will all be possible because of Him and I believe it will be "natural" for us to want to "go to Him" to offer Him our constant praise for creating such a joyous home for us. I honestly think God will delight in the very "childlike joy" that He sees in us as we "take in" all that He will freely want to give us.
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Old 09-10-2008, 03:16 AM
 
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I think that in experiencing all the utopian elements of the paradise, we will actually be enveloped in an expression of God. Wanting to experience peace, tranquility, ultimate love, security and acceptance are all desires for wanting to experience God Himself.
That's it!
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Old 09-12-2008, 07:40 AM
 
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Is it wrong to want to go to Heaven more because of the perfect Utopia/Kingdom than because of being with God?????
Nope infact that is expected. We are not citizens of this world but tourists. We are to set our affections on high. The Apostle Paul couldn't wait for that day.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:02 AM
 
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It's not that we want to go to heaven, it's that we want to be with Jesus. I heard a minister ask, the otherday. "Would you long to go to heaven knowing Jesus wasn't there"?

That was a great question.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:23 AM
 
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If you desire the kingdom of heaven, seek Him.

If you desire to see Him, keep His commandments.

Not all that enter heaven will see/be with Jesus. Nor with God the Father. This is reserved for the Elect, the Saints... Holy One's.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 09-12-2008, 11:13 AM
 
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If Jesus was physically with me, I could live in the middle of of a swamp and suck mud for eternity. As it is though, He is offering much better accommodations.
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