U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 09-21-2008, 01:38 PM
 
Location: hopefully NYC one day :D
411 posts, read 1,052,976 times
Reputation: 187

Advertisements

What do you think of megachurches and how they are almost like concerts?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-21-2008, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
6,212 posts, read 11,669,301 times
Reputation: 1101
Quote:
Originally Posted by City_boi View Post
What do you think of megachurches and how they are almost like concerts?
What do you think about megachurches and how they are almost like concerts?

godspeed,

freedom
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-21-2008, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Earth
3,798 posts, read 6,158,871 times
Reputation: 2525
Megachurches are like mary kay conventions. Lots of wooping and "saving" and glory to God yelling...all in change for your money.

That's my opinion, there may be some who like to worship that way and that's perfectly fine with me, it just doesn't align with my views.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-21-2008, 02:12 PM
 
28,905 posts, read 46,762,541 times
Reputation: 46039
I have a deep-seated animus against Megachurches, having sat through my share of worship services. Why?

1) It is my considered belief that Megachurches are not driving by theology, but rather by the charisma of the pastor. To me, this creates enormous opportunities for abuse driven by the allure of material success. In fact, the big marketing ploy of Megachurches is to not state their denomination. To me, this is either a) dishonest, making them into little better than Stealth Baptists or b) fickle, which means the church is whatever the pastor says it is at that moment.

2) In worship, Megachurches succumb to the entertainment disease. Yes, the worship services are exciting, but they are also empty of content.

3) Megachurches tend to be inwardly focused, rather than outwardly focused. To be sure, there is the odd Megachurch that will support efforts to ameliorate the ravages of poverty in the community. But almost all the efforts of Megachurches is oriented towards making the church itself bigger and with more facilities.

4) Megachurches have toyed with the dangerous notion of politicizing the pulpit. Sorry, kids, but Christianity simply does not favor one party over another (And I'm a guy who mostly votes Republican), chiefly because both political parties endorse select political positions counter to Christian teaching. Yet, that really doesn't stop a lot of these churches from wrapping themselves in the flag.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-21-2008, 03:46 PM
 
1,597 posts, read 1,660,117 times
Reputation: 487
There is only one word I can think of that sums up how I feel about megachurches: worldly.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-21-2008, 05:23 PM
 
Location: hopefully NYC one day :D
411 posts, read 1,052,976 times
Reputation: 187
^^How come??
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-21-2008, 05:55 PM
 
1,597 posts, read 1,660,117 times
Reputation: 487
I guess it depends on the type of "megachurch" you have in mind. Most megachurches are some form of nondenominational or evangelical, pop-pyschology teaching, feel-good social clubs. I think their spirituality is hollow. They focus too much on making sure people are entertained by PowerPoint presentations, or cutesy cartoons that are projected onto a screen by a multi-thousand dollar media system/sound board. They focus too much on making people feel good. I see them as markets that strive to gain members by catering to what people want. They are too "seeker sensitive". They want to mold the church according to what is convenient and pleasant for the congregation instead of striving to teach people they should be separated from that which is worldly.

In addition to that, I have a problem with some of them that like to pass out free sodas at intersections, or give free car washes to people (who can otherwise afford to do these things on their own) but don't preach the gospel while doing it. What good is their "random act of kindness"? All they want to do is get people to come to their church to hear the message. Why make people come to the church to hear it when they should be preaching it while doing their "acts of kindness" - which, if I might add, is something Jesus preached against. We aren't supposed to perform our acts of charity for all to see.

Plus, when they spend millions of dollars for new facilities that include coffee bars, gymnasiums, bookstores and stadium-style seating, as well as fountains on the property.....that rubs me the wrong way.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-21-2008, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
7,424 posts, read 10,082,405 times
Reputation: 5924
Why are Christians so critical of other Christians? Why make such blanket statements? If a church is not for you, don't go there, if it isn't your "style" go find one that is. Lord knows, we have lots of churches to choose from in most parts of this country.

The danger of criticizing a mega-church, especially if you are critical just because of sheer numbers is that the opposite viewpoint can lead to an attitude of "just us and no more" which goes directly opposite of the great comission. Do you tell a church to hang up a sign and say "sorry, some Christians won't like us, judge us for being worldly, etc, etc, so we can't grow, go somewhere else."

I have seen all of the negative things already attributed to mega churches in these seven posts to churches with less than 100 in attendance. You can't make such blanket statements.

If a big church is out of order, let God be the one to deal with it. When I first came to the Dallas area in the 80s, the two largest, fastest growing, most well known mega churches, well..... they don't even exist today. God said he judgment would begin in His house, it is his place to do it, do we not trust him enough to take care of his own?

There are fantastic mega churches that are doing great things for the Kingdom of God, there are small churches and medium ones doing the same. There are churches of all sizes that have some gross error. BUT NONE OF THEM ARE PERFECT.

There is no biblical call to say a church is out of order because of numbers alone. When Jesus fed the multitudes, once there was a gathering of 4,000 another time 5,000. Anybody want to knock that group? 3,000 came to the church on Pentecost after the Holy Spirit fell and Peter preached (uhoh, a Charismatic peronality). I think the standard for attaining mega-church status is 2,000 in attendance. According to some of you, the bible is unbiblical.

Sorry, just have been amazed at the Christians in here that are so critical. Let's do something positive and proactive. So what if a church is handing out sodas or washing cars? What do you think these people would have been doing otherwise? Sounds like a much more positive experience than sitting in front of the TV or playing X Box. If they weren't preaching the gospel to your satisfaction, I am sure they would have welcomed you with open arms to join in and preach. Perhaps this was the first time any of these people had ever done any kind of outreach and they were taking their first baby steps. Gosh, I cannot believe a Christian would be critical of this! What were you doing right then? Were you winning anyone to the Lord?

Sorry, this has my dander up. I probably ought to shut up and get my heart right.

Last edited by Saintmarks; 09-21-2008 at 10:12 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-21-2008, 10:28 PM
 
2,766 posts, read 6,513,240 times
Reputation: 1449
Not a fan of them, but I'm sure plenty of people love them and are truly feeling the spirit of the Lord there, and so I say more power to them. If they are happy I'm happy for them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-21-2008, 10:32 PM
 
4,541 posts, read 13,134,224 times
Reputation: 2285
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saintmarks View Post
Why are Christians so critical of other Christians? Why make such blanket statements? If a church is not for you, don't go there, if it isn't your "style" go find one that is. Lord knows, we have lots of churches to choose from in most parts of this country.

The danger of criticizing a mega-church, especially if you are critical just because of sheer numbers is that the opposite viewpoint can lead to an attitude of "just us and no more" which goes directly opposite of the great comission. Do you tell a church to hang up a sign and say "sorry, some Christians won't like us, judge us for being worldly, etc, etc, so we can't grow, go somewhere else."

I have seen all of the negative things already attributed to mega churches in these seven posts to churches with less than 100 in attendance. You can't make such blanket statements.

If a big church is out of order, let God be the one to deal with it. When I first came to the Dallas area in the 80s, the two largest, fastest growing, most well known mega churches, well..... they don't even exist today. God said he judgment would begin in His house, it is his place to do it, do we not trust him enough to take care of his own?

There are fantastic mega churches that are doing great things for the Kingdom of God, there are small churches and medium ones doing the same. There are churches of all sizes that have some gross error. BUT NONE OF THEM ARE PERFECT.

There is no biblical call to say a church is out of order because of numbers alone. When Jesus fed the multitudes, once there was a gathering of 4,000 another time 5,000. Anybody want to knock that group? 3,000 came to the church on Pentecost after the Holy Spirit fell and Peter preached (uhoh, a Charismatic peronality). I think the standard for attaining mega-church status is 2,000 in attendance. According to some of you, the bible is unbiblical.

Sorry, just have been amazed at the Christians in here that are so critical. Let's do something positive and proactive. So what if a church is handing out sodas or washing cars? What do you think these people would have been doing otherwise? Sounds like a much more positive experience than sitting in front of the TV or playing X Box. If they weren't preaching the gospel to your satisfaction, I am sure they would have welcomed you with open arms to join in and preach. Perhaps this was the first time any of these people had ever done any kind of outreach and they were taking their first baby steps. Gosh, I cannot believe a Christian would be critical of this! What were you doing right then? Were you winning anyone to the Lord?

Sorry, this has my dander up. I probably ought to shut up and get my heart right.
I agree with you, SaintMarks!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top