All religions are wrong. (traditions, Buddhism, doctrine, church)

[trejas]

That's right all religions are wrong. Not one can deliver what it promises. They includes Christianity, Buddhism, Muslims, Judaism, all of them, hundreds or maybe thousands more. All wrong.

IT'S ALL ABOUT GOVERNMENT -- GOD'S GOVERNMENT. Jesus came to reestablish his Kingdom (Government) on Earth. Isaiah 9:6-7; Matthew 4:17, etc. It is up and running for over two thousand years now. Like a mustard seed it is spreading throughout the world and it can not be stopped. For it is a Spiritual Kingdom, which is more powerful than anything natural. Daniel 2:44 says, The Kingdom of God will consume all the other governments of this world. Would it not be wise to be on the winning team? You will never get what you need from religion. I know, I was in religion along time. When I read Matthew 6:33, it all come together. Jesus is King. As such, He is responsible for me. He must see to it that all my needs are met. I am responsible to King Jesus, by being a good citizen of his Kingdom. It's that simple.

I want to hear what you think.

[little elmer]

As the carnal cannot accept the spiritual, I'll agree - even Christians get bogged down in that regard.

If we could just fix our eyes on Him and worship, we - and our world - would be changed.

[Capt. Dan]

Originally Posted by trejas

That's right all religions are wrong. Not one can deliver what it promises. They includes Christianity, Buddhism, Muslims, Judaism, all of them, hundreds or maybe thousands more. All wrong.

IT'S ALL ABOUT GOVERNMENT -- GOD'S GOVERNMENT. Jesus came to reestablish his Kingdom (Government) on Earth. Isaiah 9:6-7; Matthew 4:17, etc. It is up and running for over two thousand years now. Like a mustard seed it is spreading throughout the world and it can not be stopped. For it is a Spiritual Kingdom, which is more powerful than anything natural. Daniel 2:44 says, The Kingdom of God will consume all the other governments of this world. Would it not be wise to be on the winning team? You will never get what you need from religion. I know, I was in religion along time. When I read Matthew 6:33, it all come together. Jesus is King. As such, He is responsible for me. He must see to it that all my needs are met. I am responsible to King Jesus, by being a good citizen of his Kingdom. It's that simple.

I want to hear what you think.

But wasnt Matthew a CHRISTIAN?

[Fighting For Air]

Originally Posted by Capt. Dan

But wasnt Matthew a CHRISTIAN?

I believe he is referring to the tainted religiosity that calls itself "Christianity".

If we call being a Christian a pursuit of an apprehension of Christ and a devotion to service of Him and our fellow man ....

well ... perhaps that may not be what Christianity as a religious pursuit is doing.

[freedom]

All religions have false doctrine.

Pure religion and undefiled is to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to Keep themselves unspotted from the world.

godspeed,

freedom

[Saintmarks]

All world religions and much of what is called Christianity have one thing in common that separate them from the true message of Jesus and the cross. All other religions (and again much of Christianity) is an attempt by man to do some sort of good works -- reach some state of purity/holiness/nirvana -- to bridge the gap between himself and God.

Jesus on the other hand, by his work on the cross, bridged that gulf between God and man. God came to us, we don't come to him. Any form of us trying to cross that gulf, be it Muslim, Hindu or Christian, or any other religion by any other name is nothing more than dead religion.

Does man have a part in this process? Yes, but not anything to do with bettering himself. His response is to turn from his own way of bridging that gap, acknowledge that Christ alone bidged that gap on the cross and put no faith in self or any other group, doctrine, belief or ism than Jesus and the cross.

[freedom]

Originally Posted by Saintmarks

All world religions and much of what is called Christianity have one thing in common that separate them from the true message of Jesus and the cross. All other religions (and again much of Christianity) is an attempt by man to do some sort of good works -- reach some state of purity/holiness/nirvana -- to bridge the gap between himself and God.

Jesus on the other hand, by his work on the cross, bridged that gulf between God and man. God came to us, we don't come to him. Any form of us trying to cross that gulf, be it Muslim, Hindu or Christian, or any other religion by any other name is nothing more than dead religion.

Does man have a part in this process? Yes, but not anything to do with bettering himself. His response is to turn from his own way of bridging that gap, acknowledge that Christ alone bidged that gap on the cross and put no faith in self or any other group, doctrine, belief or ism than Jesus and the cross.

We are called to go unto perfection, to sin no more, to hunger and thirst after righteouness, to keep ourselves unspotted from the world. All the admonitions to walk holy, and you say we are not here to better ourselves.

Like God has somekind of ego issue and just wants a bunch of worshipping robots that never grow and say lord lord all day long without ever living a word of His teachings?
Tell me you don't mean what i think i'm hearing.

godspeed,

freedom

[mari4him]

The thing is it is not about religion, the Pharasies were "religious" however they were called out on the mat by Jesus when he told them they worried about the outer works but not the inner. They followed the traditions, but their hearts...

Therefore, it is important to remember that it is not about religion but about having a relationship with God. Personal, active, alive, vibrant, trusting, dependent relationship with God.

I call myself a Christian because I am a believer, because I have answered the call to follow Christ. This is a statement of who I am and reflects my belief in Christ. As a child of God. However, as far as the rest goes, to call myself by a denomination lets say, is wrong in my opinion. Why? Because my denomination does not define my relationship with God, only my relationship with Him does. And that is above, beyond and apart of my denomination.

Should my church/denomination cease to exist, my faith shall remain. It is not based on denomination, but based upon the word of God. What church I attend is first and foremost because it is where I feel God has led me to attend. Next it is because it does preach the Word of God and it's truth. After that it is because the word tells us that we are to fellowship with other believers and thus my church offers me that opportunity. It provides for further growth through relationships, ministries, and studying the word of God together. It provides for accountability and is a resource in times of struggle, where brothers and sisters may uplift one another in prayer.

However, as I stated, take the church away and my faith stands firm for it lies in Christ, not in a church, not in a pastor, not in a religion. It grows and holds fast because of my relationship with God.

[Saintmarks]

Originally Posted by freedom

We are called to go unto perfection, to sin no more, to hunger and thirst after righteouness, to keep ourselves unspotted from the world. All the admonitions to walk holy, and you say we are not here to better ourselves.

Like God has somekind of ego issue and just wants a bunch of worshipping robots that never grow and say lord lord all day long without ever living a word of His teachings?
Tell me you don't mean what i think i'm hearing.

godspeed,

freedom

Freedom, we have posted back and forth before and you should know by now that I am not that glib. I am choosing to not be insulted.

However, a theme you and I seem to get into is everytime I magnify Jesus and what he did, you have to counter back with what you do. The more I focus on Jesus, the more you focus on your works, your obedience, your study of the word, you, you, you.

I choose to focus on Jesus.

[freedom]

Originally Posted by Saintmarks

Freedom, we have posted back and forth before and you should know by now that I am not that glib. I am choosing to not be insulted.

However, a theme you and I seem to get into is everytime I magnify Jesus and what he did, you have to counter back with what you do. The more I focus on Jesus, the more you focus on your works, your obedience, your study of the word, you, you, you.

I choose to focus on Jesus.

I focus on Jesus by keeping His word and living His teachings, so its not at all about me, me, me. Its about US, God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit and me. Which is good for everyone around me, so it is US.

Define for me what it means when you say you focus on Jesus if you would be so kind.

godspeed,

freedom