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Old 07-22-2009, 09:43 AM
 
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SCRIPTURAL PROOFS THAT THE BIBLE TEACHES UNIVERSAL SALVATION
Yes, Christ came to save the world from their sin....but not all will accept the beautiful offer from God through His precious beloved Son!!
And Scripture teach this.....not the lie of the false teachers and their heresy of UR's reconcilation!
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:47 AM
 
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Evil, sin, blindness, and darkness are not greater than God's power. God bless.
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:47 AM
 
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Default Worth repeating "ALL DAY LONG"

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SCRIPTURAL PROOFS THAT THE BIBLE TEACHES UNIVERSAL SALVATION

Universalism is Not in the Bible ?

Understanding Universal Salvation Part One

ARGUMENTS IN FAVOR OF UNIVERSALISM

100 Scriptural Proofs That Jesus Christ Will Save All Mankind

BIBLE PROOFS

What Aboout the Scriptures Stating Just A Few Will Be Saved?

Hell is Leaving the Bible Forever</b></font>

Translations That Do Not Teach Eternal Torment
Bible Translations That Do Not Teach Eternal Torment

Also see four scriptural expositions expounding Universal Reconciliation at
biblical studies: Torturing Doubts and Exultant Faith
biblical studies: Crucial Questions About Resurrection
Concordant Expositions (html format) - The Eons
Contending For The Faith -- A Response to Don Hewey's "Rebuttal" to Questions Without Answers (http://gtft.org/Library/condon/QuestionsWithoutAnswers.htm - broken link)

Regarding the most common argument that the same word for "punishment" is also used for "life" see the following:
Matthew 25:46 - “Aionian” or “Eternal”

All three of these articles should be studied with care, especially the third one.
biblical studies: Eon As Indefinite Duration, Part One
biblical studies: Eon As Indefinte Duration, Part Two
biblical studies: Eon As Indefinte Duration, Part Three
also see
biblical studies: The Greek Word Aiõn
biblical studies: SCRIPTURE TRANSLATION PRINCIPLES
Universal Salvation University

A little test about the word "ALL" that's found in Scripture.

If Truth is changed to not be all inclusive, when the context renders that it should be it then becomes error.

Reconsider the following Scriptures, without using any preconceived thoughts or forced interpretation upon them. This may be more difficult to do than first realized, because we all resort to an immediate interpretation of something based on our past understandings of the verse.

The darkest doctrine ever devised by men was that of an "eternal suffering" for the billions of souls that die lost without Christ.
Like wolves among the sheep, carnally-minded men within the church system found it very effective to use the fear of an unending hell to control the masses that enter their religion.

Unfortunately this doctrine has remained at large in Christianity as a whole.

The Lord Jesus said, "When I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw all men to myself." - John 12:32

LOOK AT THE VERSES WITH THE WORD ALL
Savior of all, especially believers (1 Tim 4:9-11)
Especially Those That Believe

God wills that all mankind be saved (1 Tim 2:4)
Operating all in accord with counsel of His will (Eph 1:11)
In Adam all dying; in Christ shall all be vivified (1 Cor 15:21-23)
It says "in Christ shall all," not "all who are in Christ."

One offense for all mankind for condemnation... (Rom 5:18-19)
Lamb of God taking away sin of the world (John 1:29)
Correspondent ransom for all (1 Tim 2:6)

Every knee bowing in the Name of Jesus (Phil 2:9; Is 45:23)
“in” is the literal Greek translation. See Young’s Literal Translation
and every tongue acclaiming that Jesus Christ is Lord.
And we know that anyone who acclaims that Jesus Christ is Lord,
especially when it is to God's glory without any hypocrisy is saved for 1Corinthians 12:3 says so.

Locks all in stubbornness; to be merciful to all (Rom 11:30-32)
All created ... to reconcile all (Col 1:16-20)
He should be tasting death for the sake of everyone (Heb 2:9)
That the world might be saved thru Him (John 3:17)
God was in Christ conciliating the world to Himself (2 Cor 5:18)
For our sins, not ours only but the whole world (1 John 2:2)
Worth repeating "ALL DAY LONG"
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:55 AM
 
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Default Why are you and i having faith for our salvation?

WHY ARE YOU AND I HAVING FAITH IN JESUS FOR OUR SALVATION?

SELF-HELP SALVATION AND PRIDE

By James Coram, director of THE CONCORDANT PUBLISHING CONCERN

Some Christians think that the gaining of their salvation is, in part, a human achievement. Other Christians think that the maintaining of their salvation is, in part, a human achievement. Yet other Christians think that both the gaining and the maintaining of their salvation is, in part, a human achievement. Even though it be ever so small, many Christians think that their part (which becomes the most important part) is absolutely necessary for the success of their salvation. God’s part, they think, is not sufficient.

What everyone needs most is a willing heart and a change in their stubborn will. But many Christians think that at that point, just when we need Him the most, God lets us down. They think that He will not grant anyone a willing heart or effect a change in their stubborn will. This is something, they think, that they must supply on their own.

Even if we have been graced to come to Jesus, we tend to suppose that this was thanks to ourselves. Indeed, many seem to become much more proud and self reliant after “conversion” than ever before. And they seek to cover this up through much ill-disguised religious parlance in which it is true that they do give much, but certainly not all the credit to God. For example, “The Lord did it all, after I let Him.” or “I could never be where I am today without His assistance.”

This increase in pride is the result of having been subjected to such an abundance of human-independence teaching in an atmosphere in which it is continuously encouraged and reinforced, verified and justified with much approbation and exaltation.

After all, such believers are sure that they, unlike others, have “made their decision for Christ.” And, they say, this has not occurred in the grace of God as a result of their having been chosen before the disruption of the world (even if the Scriptures do say so), but is the result and is thanks to their very own decision. Though others may far excel them in lesser things, when it comes to what is most important, they think it is obvious that they are superior. They think, “At least I was willing and sufficiently disciplined, for when it mattered the most I did the right thing and the switch got thrown, so people like me will go up to heaven while everyone else will go down to hell.”

Just think of it. Picture this type of self-help salvation and pride. For all eternity (or at least for the ages) they will be able to say, “All those miserable sinners burning in hell could have gone to heaven too. Certainly the work of Christ saved no one at all. It wasn’t supposed to. All it did was make salvation possible. Besides, every one of those sinners deserves to be in everlasting burning, for unlike me, they didn’t do what they should have and could have. And here I am in eternal bliss, perfectly good and perfectly happy, even though billions of my fellow creatures are perfectly miserable and doomed to stay that way forever (or at least for the ages). Yet in the end I only got here myself because of what I did, not because of the sacrifice of Christ. I chose to meet God’s demands for His (so-called) free gift and I did so. I wasn’t given any special grace. It wasn’t any easier for me than for anyone else. It’s too late now anyway so let them burn. Too bad for them, but not for me. I’m happy and so is God. In fact we’re all happy here.”

You see, that’s the ultimate selfishness of that view and that’s what it leads to. One can only avoid boasting in self by truly ceasing to believe things and say things that are inherently of a boastful nature.

It is only the word of the cross that effectively and wisely trains us in this true humility so that “if anyone is boasting, in the Lord let him be boasting,” as Paul says. It is an empty gesture to go through the motions of giving all the glory to God, while at the same time continually believing that good decisions and acts are things which ultimately owe their existence to one’s own self, God having but made them possible. May He enlighten us to see truly that it is “in the grace of God that I am what I am.”

After thought. Since the salvation of even one soul is 100% by God’s grace plus nothing, the salvation of all souls will be no problem for God at all according to His sovereign perfect timing for each individual

HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE
Concordant Expositions (html format) - His Achievement Are We
The introduction at the beginning of each chapter is not the chapter itself. You must click on the highlighted title of each chapter to bring up the entire chapter to read it.
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:55 AM
 
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Evil, sin, blindness, and darkness are not greater than God's power. God bless.
No it is not greater than God.....that is what is so sad of those satan has blinded and deceived in believing that their OK....!! God has shown them this through Jesus Christ the truth of sin and their darkness....but they choose the darkness rather then the light...John 3:17-21!!!
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:56 AM
 
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lk 12:5

But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Jesus is warning of something that will occur in the future..
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:58 AM
 
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The deception of satan and sin is not greater than God's power to enlighten, Latte 'Chic and neither is the one who is deceived. The True Light which enlightens every man has come into the world. One day all blinders will be removed when all will bow in worship to Him and proclaim,confess, give thanks to Him. God bless.
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Old 07-22-2009, 10:00 AM
 
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lk 12:5

But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Jesus is warning of something that will occur in the future..
Amen....Yep, the Scripture is not past tense but present tense and the future!
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Old 07-22-2009, 10:00 AM
 
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The deception of satan and sin is not greater than God's power to enlighten, Latte 'Chic and neither is the one who is deceived. The True Light which enlightens every man has come into the world. One day all blinders will be removed when all will bow in worship to Him and proclaim,confess, give thanks to Him. God bless.
Jesus enlightens only His elect, not the seed of the devil..
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Old 07-22-2009, 10:01 AM
 
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lk 12:5

But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Jesus is warning of something that will occur in the future..
What Jesus really taught about "hell."
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/jesusteachingonhell.html

THE TRUTH ABOUT “HELL”

The Origin and History of the Doctrine of Endless Punishment
The Slavation Conspiracy: How Hell Became Eternal
Universalism, the Prevailing Doctrine of the Christian Church During its First Five Hundred Years
Savior of the World Series

People who want to keep believing in the doctrine of "endless hell" will not read the following articles.
But people who don't want to believe that the Bible teaches "endless hell" will read all of them and will be filled with great joy at finding out the truth!

What the Bible really teaches about "hell."
The Bible Hell
AIÓN -- AIÓNIOS
Hell - where is it? What does hell look like? Who is in Hell?
Just What Do You Mean...Hell?
Hell is Leaving the Bible Forever</b></font>

Regarding arguments against the Bible teaching universal salvation, see
Bible Threatenings Explained

Any “hell” that anyone will experience the Bible calls "kolasis aionion," (Matthew 25:46) which means age-during corrective chastisement.
Chapter Eleven

It is limited in duration, and corrective in purpose.
AIÓN -- AIÓNIOS
Matthew 25:46 - “Aionian” or “Eternal”

Regarding the most common argument that the same word for "punishment" is also used for "life" see the following:
Matthew 25:46 - “Aionian” or “Eternal”

All three of these articles should be studied with care, especially the third one.
biblical studies: Eon As Indefinite Duration, Part One
biblical studies: Eon As Indefinte Duration, Part Two
biblical studies: Eon As Indefinte Duration, Part Three
also see:
biblical studies: The Greek Word Aiõn
biblical studies: SCRIPTURE TRANSLATION PRINCIPLES
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