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Old 07-29-2009, 09:10 AM
 
Location: The A
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The reality is that this world is populated by many sadists.
God will heal them all some day.
God not going to heal the devil and His children..Here is their portion Matt 25:


Here is their portion from God..

Matt 25:

The devil and His angels and his seed will be going here forever : Matt 25:


41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Its all prepared for them..everlasting punishment..how long is everlasting ?
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:12 AM
 
Location: NC
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The reality is that this world is populated by many sadists.
God will heal them all some day.
That will be the day, Rodger, when all are delivered, singing His praises and giving Him the honor. God bless.

Psalms 22:
27. All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the LORD,
And all the families of the nations will worship before You.
28. For the kingdom is the LORD'S
And He rules over the nations.
29. All the prosperous of the earth will eat and worship,
All those who go down to the dust will bow before Him,
Even he who cannot keep his soul alive

Psalms 66
4. "All the earth will worship You,
And will sing praises to You;
They will sing praises to Your name." Selah

Psalms 68:18
You have ascended on high, You have led captive Your captives;
You have received gifts among men,
Even among the rebellious also, that the LORD God may dwell there
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:48 AM
 
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That will be the day, Rodger, when all are delivered, singing His praises and giving Him the honor. God bless.

Psalms 22:
27. All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the LORD,
And all the families of the nations will worship before You.
28. For the kingdom is the LORD'S
And He rules over the nations.
29. All the prosperous of the earth will eat and worship,
All those who go down to the dust will bow before Him,
Even he who cannot keep his soul alive

Psalms 66
4. "All the earth will worship You,
And will sing praises to You;
They will sing praises to Your name." Selah

Psalms 68:18
You have ascended on high, You have led captive Your captives;
You have received gifts among men,
Even among the rebellious also, that the LORD God may dwell there
Great verses! Also:

Rev 15:2 And I saw what looked like a sea of glass mixed with fire and, standing beside the sea, those who had been victorious over the beast and his image and over the number of his name. They held harps given them by God 3and sang the song of Moses the servant of God and the song of the Lamb:
"Great and marvelous are your deeds,
Lord God Almighty.
Just and true are your ways,
King of the ages.
4Who will not fear (revere) you, O Lord,
and bring glory to your name?
For you alone are holy.
All nations will come
and worship before you,
for your righteous acts have been revealed."


Interesting points:
What/who is the sea of glass mixed with fire? (the non-elect)
Who is it who overcame the beast and is standing beside the sea? (the elect)
Who will not revere and worship the Lord? (NO ONE).


The sea of glass mixed with fire is a really interesting symbol. Elsewhere in Revelations we learn that the "sea" really represents all of mankind. Here it has become a "sea of glass" indicating the sea of mankind has been calmed. Why is there fire mixed in? This could be symbolizing the lake of fire. It is the fire that has purifed and purged the mass of mankind so it is now a calm sea of glass.
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Old 07-29-2009, 10:19 AM
 
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Very good points, legoman. God bless.

L. Ray Smith - The Lake of Fire - Part 12
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:27 AM
 
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Eternal and forever as well as hell are not Biblical words in the original language Bibles.
Google "what-the-hell-is-hell" and get ready to read more, things that the organized church is mistaken.
Too many on this topic don't read and just accept man's faulty traditions. How sad... but that too is part of God's plan... the plan for those to wallow in sin and stupidity... for the time being.
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Default What is the purpose of beloved57 being here?

beloved 57, earlier on this thread you inferred that one of the evidences that we are among the elect is that we will be able to believe that God is going to sustain the non-elect in a state of inescapable suffering forever, by saying that we would not be able to believe it since we are obviously not among the elect.

What In God's Name are you even on this forum for?!!

Are you trying to torture some of the rest of us here who are not able to believe in that kind of God?

Or are you trying to start a mutual admiration society so you can all pat each other on the back for believing the same disgusting thing?
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Default The world’s most evil beliefs - imho

The supposed “justice” of eternal “hell”.
The Law of Circularity

THE WORLD’S MOST EVIL BELIEFS - IMHO

The eternal torment theology of the Arminian Christian relies on so-called “free will” and luck.

The god that Arminian Christian eternal tormentors profess to love says to his fallen creatures
“Unless you are lucky enough to find out about my son during this lifetime, and even if you are that lucky, if you don’t have the good sense to cooperate with my son properly before you die, then I am going to raise you from the dead and I will sustain you alive in an inescapable state of eternal torment forever.”

The eternal torment theology of the Calvinist Christian eternal tormentor relies on God alone, not “free will” at all. It is summed up by the word TULIP: Total depravity, Unconditional election, Limited atonement, Irresistible grace, and the Perseverance of the elect.

The god that Calvinistic Christian eternal tormentors profess to love says to his fallen creatures
"I created most of you for the purpose of torturing you forever. However, I am going to choose a few of you undeserving ones to go to heaven where you will be happy forever." John Calvin said there will be infants a span long in hell because they were not among the elect. (A span is the distance between the tip of the thumb to the tip of the little finger.)

And then both the Arminian and Calvinistic eternal tormentors say that the feelings that they have for this god of theirs is “love!”

Without God’s sustaining power everyone would cease to exist. So if anyone were to suffer forever, our all-powerful God (Who is Love in essence, not just loving) would be fully 100% responsible for it. We would have to conclude that any definition of the manifestation of “love-in-essence” includes eternally sustaining people alive in an inescapable state of suffering.

What a travesty; what a revolting definition of love it is that God, Who is love personified, would grant any creature a will so strong that they can choose themselves into an irreversible state of never ending suffering (Arminian) or deserve to suffer forever just by being born into the human race (Calvinist)!!

Thank God a correctly (literally not interpretively) translated Bible does not teach such insane ideas! See the following links
Kingdom Bible Studies: J. Preston Eby, Kingdom of God; Saviour of The World
Absolute Assurance
Universal Salvation University

Or if the links don’t work, copy and paste one of the following titles into Google
SAVIOR OF THE WORLD SERIES
Or
ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE IN JESUS CHRIST
Or
UNIVERSAL SALVATION UNIVERSITY

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Old 07-30-2009, 01:46 PM
 
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Thank you for sharing, Rodger. Very sad

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The god that Calvinistic Christian eternal tormentors profess to love says to his fallen creatures
"I created most of you for the purpose of torturing you forever. However, I am going to choose a few of you undeserving ones to go to heaven where you will be happy forever." John Calvin said there will be infants a span long in hell because they were not among the elect. (A span is the distance between the tip of the thumb to the tip of the little finger.)
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:57 PM
 
Location: The A
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beloved 57, earlier on this thread you inferred that one of the evidences that we are among the elect is that we will be able to believe that God is going to sustain the non-elect in a state of inescapable suffering forever, by saying that we would not be able to believe it since we are obviously not among the elect.

What In God's Name are you even on this forum for?!!

Are you trying to torture some of the rest of us here who are not able to believe in that kind of God?

Or are you trying to start a mutual admiration society so you can all pat each other on the back for believing the same disgusting thing?
I am here for this cause:

Matt 24:

14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

I am a witness to the Gospel of the Kingdom..
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:01 PM
 
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Default Hell is for the devil and his angles !

Matt 25:

41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

People to their eternal peril change the word of christ to fit their itching ears..

The devil is one with His seed, so when it says the everlasting fire was prepared for the devil, it means He and His children..

Wicked men and women who are the children of the devil..and that includes very religous people too..
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