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Originally Posted by Nero777
And I will clarify one more time; I grew up in the Baptist and Methodist churches, but as I grew older, I learned that no religion was ever correct in its entirety. I broke from these churches and the views they have drilled into my head since I was a young boy and I began to rely on the Scripture alone. If you still think that this doesn't answer, then I will make it simple by saying that I was part of the Baptist church. Now, answer my question about whether or not you think I am going to hell because I don't observe all the sacraments though I live a life with Christ at the center and I desire to have the Spirit complete the work that God began in me.
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There are exceptions, offcourse. For Example: A Baby, 1 second before he gets his Confirmation, Baptism and the Eucharist, dies, if he would have lived for one hour more, and than would die, it was a whole different story, what will happen to this kid (Suppose he was of an Eastern Catholic Church).
This is, I believe, one of the exceptions.
Or, someone, been baptised in a Catholic or Orthodox Church, had the Confirmation also, Was a sinner, did the Sacrament of Penance, but minutes before he receives the Eucharist, after having confessed his sins, dies, if he would have had the eucharist, and dies, also, it would be a whole different story, after all he did repent, he only would have taken the eucharisit, ofcourse with the best/right intentions, for example, hope, faith, and love (THIS IS AT LEAST LEAST FOR ALL THE SACRAMENTS, ALL THE 7!)
In Your Case:
You attend the Methodism (Protestantism) and the Baptism (Protestantism), in my opionion, these two ´christian denominations´ are not telling you te truth, I believe they both of them, has got two Sacraments, but for Salvation, a minimum of 4 sacraments is required, they dont have Confirmation or Penance, but they do have Baptism and Eucharist, but is is simply not enough.
Maybe I am wrong, but I do believe (but there are exceptions) that 4/7 sacraments are necaccery for salvation, and of course, the first point is: you must be attached to a church that has got the 7 sacraments.
Ok, theoretically, it would be enough, if a church has go the 5 sacraments, why?
Well Baptism is performed by a priest, he get his office, from the Holy Orders Sacrament. Unless A church has not got the Sacrament of the Holy Order, how do you want to get a valid baptism for example.
So for Baptism, you also need Holy Orders.
For Confirmation, Eucharist and Penance, also.
Theoretically, 5 sacraments, are enough, if the Methodist/Baptist Church had 5 sacraments, than it was okey to me, but maybe not to God.
You know why? Because God established 7 sacraments, and if you have 5, you simply deny the word of God. Thats why I say that every church that has not got the 7 sacraments, isnt simply the right church, because it denies the word of God.
Do you want to know the basis (citations of the Bible, etc) of all of the 7 sacraments, to beginning with the baptism, and ending with the anointing of the sick.
Than you could convert to my Church, the Syriac Orthodox Church of Antioch, get the Baptism, the Confirmation, the Penance (this is discutable, after you are Baptised, all your sins are forgiven you, so why should go to Penance, offcourse after the Baptism you sin, and then you will have to confess), and the Eucharist.
Well, what do you loose, what do you think of it.
Im glad to hear a respons.
Yours sincerely,
West..
ALTHOUHG I AM NOT COMPLETELY SURE WHAT
YOURS SINCERELY MEANS...
P.S: I AM NOT GOD, BUT YES, I THINK THAT IF YOU STAY IN THIS METHODISM/BAPTISM FAITH, OR HAVE NO FAITH AT ALL, I THINK YOU ARE BOUND/ON YOUR WAY TO HELL, IF YOU DIE IN THIS FAITH/OR HAVE NO FAITH OF ALL (THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS LIKE I HAVE MENTIONED, AND 2ND OF ALL, I AM NOT GOD)
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAY? I DONT WANT TO HURT YOU, IF I DID, I AM SORRY.
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