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Old 10-22-2008, 09:30 PM
 
Location: tucson
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By loving our neighbor as Christ has commanded us, feeding and clothing them is providing for their needs not their wants. I may want a new car but I don't need one. By feeding and clothing, you are being Christlike and that in itself may bring your lost friend to Jesus.



Oh, please! I am not confused! The government is taking away rights to women by not giving us a choice over our own body. I am not for abortion! I just feel there may be medical complications that may cause a women to want to have that choice.

I am new at this, but I agree, I think most christians are afraid of Obama's being a closet muslim and women will have no rights at all. as someone said earlier, you can't regulate morality. we should have the right to choose. I dont like burkahs.
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Old 11-28-2008, 04:47 AM
 
Location: Florida (SW)
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I thnk it is because many so called christians have given up their theology in favor of a political ideology and in support of that ideology they are willing to abandon the tenents of Jesus' teachings. They fill their hearts with judgement and hate and wrap themselves in slogans and nationalism to justify torture, genocide, and their wealth and privledge. They fear that they might lose their privledged position, and so they support candidates who play to their lowest common denominator...of division, bigotry, enviornmental rape, war and other non-Christlike behavior.

IMHO John McCain and Sarah Palin played into those fears and managed to make them seem like virtues and worthy of preserving. Obama said he would address the needs of "the least of these" and would attempt to address the need to feed, clothe and heal and provide shelter....through democratic govenance.......he's lucky those so called christians didnt crucify him; but to our countries credit....he won by a landslide!
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Old 11-29-2008, 08:25 PM
 
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You voted democrat, thats your opinion but do not call yourself a christian. No christian should support abortion for any reason. Why do you think a lot of churches are saying repent? And if you actually read and follow the bible then you would know you will not reap the rewards here but in Heaven? You will go threw a lot of trials and tribulations and as long as you keep to his word then you will be ok and if not well you know the rest, on your judgement day he will say ''Why did you not support my sheep? over your money in the back of your pocket?
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Old 11-29-2008, 09:00 PM
 
Location: NC
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You voted democrat, thats your opinion but do not call yourself a christian.
Please, people who voted democrats are not necessarily pro abortion, if that is what you are saying. Take care and God bless.
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Old 11-29-2008, 09:22 PM
 
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Default Abortion, abortion, abortion, abortion!

John McCain was very likely to appoint Conservative Judges to The Courts; Obama is extremely likely to appoint Progressive Judges to The Courts. Conservatives support Traditional Values (like not murdering babies) and Progressives don't.
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Old 11-29-2008, 10:48 PM
 
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John McCain was very likely to appoint Conservative Judges to The Courts; Obama is extremely likely to appoint Progressive Judges to The Courts. Conservatives support Traditional Values (like not murdering babies) and Progressives don't.
So abortion trumps any other issue at hand?

Hypothetical for you:

Situation - The country is at 12% unemployment (not far fetched in the future) and its a presidential election year. The market is in the dumps and we are facing stagflation.

Candidate 1: Candidate 1 is pro choice. He has the proven experience to pull a state economy out of the rubble and make it prosperous. Everyone knows his policies will work at a federal level.

Candidate 2: Candidate 2 is pro life. He does not have any proven experience from an economic standpoint.

Who do you vote for?

Again.. its just a hypothetical. No reading between the lines required. I'm simply asking if you would vote for the person who would help millions get jobs.. or would you vote for the person who wouldn't help millions get jobs but might appoint conservative judges.
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Old 11-29-2008, 10:54 PM
 
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Hmmm..you're right

I guess 85% would be a better number

Amazing that you think that issues mean nothing to people. Then how does Obama win with such a minority of blacks in this country. Noiw does a white attract any black voters. That maybe your standard but not really many peoples IMO.I woulod say that many voters are in fact turned off by the two parties basic platforms tho in any election.That is the reason so many vote straight tickets and not for the person.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:09 PM
 
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So abortion trumps any other issue at hand?

Hypothetical for you:

Situation - The country is at 12% unemployment (not far fetched in the future) and its a presidential election year. The market is in the dumps and we are facing stagflation.

Candidate 1: Candidate 1 is pro choice. He has the proven experience to pull a state economy out of the rubble and make it prosperous. Everyone knows his policies will work at a federal level.

Candidate 2: Candidate 2 is pro life. He does not have any proven experience from an economic standpoint.

Who do you vote for?

Again.. its just a hypothetical. No reading between the lines required. I'm simply asking if you would vote for the person who would help millions get jobs.. or would you vote for the person who wouldn't help millions get jobs but might appoint conservative judges.
I did read your opening post. So, I know you think Obama offers something better for our economy, than we got from President Bush. I think that is incorrect. However, I'll go along with your hypothetical scenario, where I have to choose between a President that promises to relieve high unemployment and expand the slaughter of approximately one million children per year in The U.S.A and approximately 46 million per year Globally, versus a candidate who promises to try to stop the slaughter of innocent children at home and abroad, but who lacks experience in relieving high unemployment. O.k., I don't think that is even a little bit hard


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Old 12-01-2008, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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for Christians....sin that sends you to hell trumps all economic gains

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So abortion trumps any other issue at hand?

Hypothetical for you:

Situation - The country is at 12% unemployment (not far fetched in the future) and its a presidential election year. The market is in the dumps and we are facing stagflation.

Candidate 1: Candidate 1 is pro choice. He has the proven experience to pull a state economy out of the rubble and make it prosperous. Everyone knows his policies will work at a federal level.

Candidate 2: Candidate 2 is pro life. He does not have any proven experience from an economic standpoint.

Who do you vote for?

Again.. its just a hypothetical. No reading between the lines required. I'm simply asking if you would vote for the person who would help millions get jobs.. or would you vote for the person who wouldn't help millions get jobs but might appoint conservative judges.
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Old 01-13-2010, 08:00 PM
 
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So you would rather have a few extra bucks and kill a whole bunch of children, in which I do not see any extra money with a democrat? No I live in a house we work for!!! And I have always worked for and all I see is a deficit that topped twelve trillion? TAX AND SPEND TAX AND SPEND.
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