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Old 10-09-2008, 08:55 AM
 
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"Maybe you should look at the grades of Planned Parenthood for both candidates.
I am sorry but what in the world does the military or veterans affairs have anything to do with Christianity?"

Maybe it shows that McCain is a liar when he talks about his support for vets. His actions are different than his words.
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Old 10-09-2008, 08:56 AM
 
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Maybe you should look at the grades of Planned Parenthood for both candidates.

I am sorry but what in the world does the military or veterans affairs have anything to do with Christianity?

(p.s. Those votes come with other issues attached to them- like bringing troops home, in which McCain would never vote for. Those votes have "catches" to them)
For Christians, every issue is an issue. Surely you know some Christian vets? Surely you know that whether Christian or not, we should be taking excellent care of our veterans.
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Old 10-09-2008, 08:56 AM
 
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"Maybe you should look at the grades of Planned Parenthood for both candidates.
I am sorry but what in the world does the military or veterans affairs have anything to do with Christianity?"

Maybe it shows that McCain is a liar when he talks about his support for vets. His actions are different than his words.
(p.s. Most if not ALL votes come with other issues attached to them- like bringing troops home, in which McCain would never vote for. Those votes have "catches" to them)

Your fooling yourself as a Christian, if you use that poor excuse for voting for Obama. They are politicians. THEY BOTH LIE!
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Old 10-09-2008, 08:58 AM
 
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For Christians, every issue is an issue. Surely you know some Christian vets? Surely you know that whether Christian or not, we should be taking excellent care of our veterans.
We should FOLLOW THE WORD OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! first and foremost.

We are to go into the world tell people of the gospel, instead of waisting time looking at veteran affairs.

I am sorry but we Christians get to consumed in worldly affairs. That's why people are dieing everyday going to hell.
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:04 AM
 
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If you want to start examing associates, is it okay that McCain has appeared on G. Gordon Liddy's radio program? Liddy calls McCain a friend. I guess if your a republican no one examines your associates and friends. Even if the friend is a convicted felon.

"At CRP, Liddy concocted several plots, some far-fetched, intended to embarrass the Democratic opposition. These included firebombing the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. (where classified documents leaked by Daniel Ellsberg were being stored), kidnapping anti-war protest organizers and transporting them to Mexico during the Republican National Convention (which at the time was planned for San Diego), and luring mid-level Democratic campaign officials to a house boat in Baltimore where they would be secretly photographed in compromising positions with call girls. Most of Liddy's ideas were rejected, but a few were given the go ahead by Nixon Administration officials, including the break-in at Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office. Ellsberg had leaked the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times.

At some point, Liddy was instructed to break into the Democratic National Committee offices in the Watergate Hotel[citation needed].

For his role in Watergate, which he coordinated with Hunt, Liddy was convicted of conspiracy, burglary and illegal wiretapping, and received a 20-year sentence. He served a total of five and half years in prison, including over 100 days in solitary confinement,"
G. Gordon Liddy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:07 AM
 
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My heart as a Christian grieves!! I can just see Paul looking at the political issues of Rome
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:07 AM
 
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Liddy is not McCain's only shaddy contact, by the way. If we want to start digging into who the candidates know, it will get ugly.
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:08 AM
 
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6. Obama answered that question from the perspective of the individual...it's a right. McCain answered the question from the perspective of Commander in Chief...it's a responsibility. I'm surprised you didn't pick up on that, bigthirsty.
More clairification and followup since this was kinda directed at me:

Tom Brokaw put the question to each candidate, "Is health care in America a privilege, a right, or a responsibility?"

McCain: "I think it's a responsibility, in this respect, in that we should have available and affordable health care to every American citizen, to every family member,"

Obama: "Well, I think it should be a right for every American."

I guess I didn't understand that McCains answer was from the perspective of "Commander in Chief" since he didn't state it as such.
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:11 AM
 
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We should FOLLOW THE WORD OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! first and foremost.
I agree and the Word tells us to love our neighbor as ourselves. Do you not believe Christ would have us care of our neighbors and take care of those around us? Well, that's a part of what Veteran Affairs is supposed to do.

Listen, I'm not saying make Veteran Affairs the ONLY reason you vote for someone but Christ is all and in all....including veteran affairs.
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:11 AM
 
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I'm not sure if it matters who is or is not Christian...or Muslim or Pastafarian...the fact is that you cannot regulate morality. One can pass all the laws in the world regarding how people behave but when all is said and done, morality is a personal issue and cannot be controlled by the government. It's been tried for thousands of years and it just won't happen...so voter's need to pay attention to other issues and put the Christianity and morality things behind them for the election.

BTW, I am voting for McCain...but not due to any religious beliefs.
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