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Old 10-14-2008, 10:30 AM
 
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Actually I didn't. You said the base of the republican party was the people in the video and those people were Christians. I stated if that is what a Christian is then I don't want to be one (hence.. the "not mine" comment).

So I have a line. You obviously think that people like those in the video are representative of Christians. I don't. Thus.. if I don't how can I call them my brother or sister? Goes back to my question to you earlier if you call Mr. Phelps a brother of yours in Christ (which you've failed to answer).

I'm pretty sure I outlined that in the post above. I guess my presentation skills aren't up to par. My apologies
I wasn't aware that you considered the people in the video as representative of the base of the Republican party. If you do, fine. I don't. I consider myself part of that base and those people as fringe extremists. At any rate....whatever. And I never saw your question regarding Phelps, can you please show me where you asked that.

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Well Alpha why did it take so long to admit that? Why not from the very beginning of the discussion say "I'm part of the Republican base..." and then explain why you think or don't think the people in the video represent the Republican base? Instead you felt it best to question which of us is going to be saved. Twisted in my view.. but what the hell.. it was your call and who am I to judge.
It wasn't intentional regardless of how twisted you think it was. It's pretty obvious how you feel about Christians bigthirsty, and I'm one so.....anyway, it really wasn't intentional. Truth be told that comment about the base of the Republican party caught my eye and I didn't even look at the vid...still haven't. Youtube isn't a main source of information for me except for Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster.....the videos on them seem pretty accurate


YouTube - SCIENTISTS SAY "SHOCKING SASQUATCH VIDEO IS REAL ".

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Well see in the eyes of many.. progressive Christians such as myself aren't really "Christians". So I wanted to make sure I got the true "Christians" to answer.
I've never heard of progressive Christians....I've just heard of Christians....so if you're progressive, what does that make me?
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:37 AM
 
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That you are uninformed if you believe Obama believes in murdering babies. Quite possibly that you get most of your information from some surivalist type website. I dunno. you tell me..
Maybe it is you who are the one that is misinformed. Planned Parenthood gave Obama a 100% rating as politicians go who are in support of abortion (murdering of babies)

Infact here's a video of Obama at Planned Parenthood. Enjoy

BlackGenocide.org | Planned Parenthood



YouTube - I Invented the Internet (Ep. 4: Kill and Destroy)
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:15 AM
 
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I wasn't aware that you considered the people in the video as representative of the base of the Republican party.
Which is weird to me since you quoted me from this post:

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I noticed the producer of the video was from www.nohussein.com

classy.. very classy.

FactCheck.org: Obama and 'Infanticide'

lets see what else is classy..


YouTube - McCain supporters in Bethlehem, PA

weird how the right wing is against "killing babies" but doesn't mind giving the "throat cut" action 43 seconds into the video..

stay classy republicans.

I'm beginning to get a real good idea of what the "base" is of the Republican party.
Where I say in the last sentence "I'm beginning to get a real good idea of what the "base" is of the Republican party."

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If you do, fine. I don't. I consider myself part of that base and those people as fringe extremists.
Hey look. We are getting somewhere. So you don't believe they represent the base.

What would you consider the base? Are you a registered Republican who donates money to the party? I think this would be a great discussion. I think many people would like to know what the base of the republican party is.

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At any rate....whatever. And I never saw your question regarding Phelps, can you please show me where you asked that.
I made a mistake. I had typed it and then thought it to be too rude. Good on me for taking it out. My apology.

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It wasn't intentional regardless of how twisted you think it was.
Then it wasn't intentional. Case closed.

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It's pretty obvious how you feel about Christians bigthirsty
Oh how I'd love to respond to that cute little sentence in writing. Instead I'll go with

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Truth be told that comment about the base of the Republican party caught my eye and I didn't even look at the vid...still haven't.
Not sure what to say to that. That kind of information is helpful to know before we get to far into any discussion.

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Youtube isn't a main source of information for me except for Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster.....the videos on them seem pretty accurate
Well you wouldn't know how accurate the video I posted was since you never watched it.

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I've never heard of progressive Christians....I've just heard of Christians....so if you're progressive, what does that make me?
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:26 AM
 
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Maybe it is you who are the one that is misinformed. Planned Parenthood gave Obama a 100% rating as politicians go who are in support of abortion (murdering of babies)

Infact here's a video of Obama at Planned Parenthood. Enjoy

BlackGenocide.org | Planned Parenthood



YouTube - I Invented the Internet (Ep. 4: Kill and Destroy)
No I'm not misinformed.

Do you believe Obama sits down at night and says "I believe in murdering babies."

or..

Do you believe that Obama believes that religious beliefs shouldn't supercede the individual rights of citizens in this country.

Because in the end we can either have a rational discussion about this or you can feel good and empowered to show as many abortion videos as possible. I don't care either way. However, the more weird videos you show.. the more I think..

well.. I'll just shut my mouth.
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:28 AM
 
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yes he does say that right before he VOTES

otherwise he would've fought all the bills he didnt vote for, and said to change it.

the point is that he didnt fight, and never passed any major legislation.

and that he voted against SIMPLE abortion bills.
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:36 AM
 
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Are you a registered Republican who donates money to the party?
I'm actually a registered Democrat who started almost exclusively voting straight Republican since Bill Clinton was elected the first time.

Rest of the post....
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:40 AM
 
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I'm actually a registered Democrat who started almost exclusively voting straight Republican since Bill Clinton was elected the first time.

Rest of the post....
Darn. Guess we'll never know who the real base is...
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Old 10-18-2008, 09:00 PM
 
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I changed parties because of Clinton too.

Remember this.....

The Republican Party today is the Democratic Party of the 60's.

AND

The Democratic Party today is the Socialist Party of the 50's.

Do your homework.
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:01 AM
 
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We should FOLLOW THE WORD OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! first and foremost.

We are to go into the world tell people of the gospel, instead of waisting time looking at veteran affairs.

I am sorry but we Christians get to consumed in worldly affairs. That's why people are dieing everyday going to hell.
I am sorry I am not a Christian. You are a fine example as why I am not.

I would hate the thought of thinking like you.
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:12 AM
 
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Why hasn't Obama produced a "vault" copy of his birth certificate? Back in the early 60's when he was born, a person's birth certificate was filled out by hand and included a lot more information than the birth certificate that has been shown on the sites you mention. I was born in 1960 and along with all of the pertinent information about me (date & time of birth, weight ect.) it also shows my parent's names (my mother's maiden name) ages, where my parents were born, their address, the name of the doctor, the name of the hospital, ...heck, it even says what my dad did for a living. And it was signed by the doctor that delivered me. Obama's certificate shows none of that detailed information. If he had a "vault" copy he could show it and that would be the end of the discussion.
Oh good grief. Any body wants a Birth Certificate anymore they request a certified copy from the records department.
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