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Old 10-10-2008, 04:15 PM
 
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I know Christians like to debate about homosexuality being a sin, they like to belittle and pester, but how come those Christians do not pray and pester those that are gluttons or those that live the glutton lifestyle. Over half of the United States is overweight and some are more so, they are considered obese.

Homosexuality is about only 3% of the nation and some of those people want to have loving and caring relationships.

Obesity and glutton type behaviors are rampant in the United States. It isn't only food that people are stuffing down their throats but people are using debt as a way to "have everything they want".
First of all homosexuality is a moral issue that affects our whole society as far as "gluttony" is a huge sin, not just overeating but if you look at the what's left of the stock market today. You see it first hand

Both of them are wrong in the eyes of God.
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:48 PM
 
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First of all homosexuality is a moral issue that affects our whole society as far as "gluttony" is a huge sin, not just overeating but if you look at the what's left of the stock market today. You see it first hand

Both of them are wrong in the eyes of God.
Absolutely spot on. We always tend to look at gluttony as over eating, but your post shows it's more than just food, it's consumerism. Look at Christmas and what we spend on gifts. Look how we eat during the holidays. I think about the food that goes to waste, and waist and think about so many starving people in our country, and countries around the world. We will be judged for what we did and didn't do.
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Old 10-10-2008, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I know Christians like to debate about homosexuality being a sin, they like to belittle and pester, but how come those Christians do not pray and pester those that are gluttons or those that live the glutton lifestyle. Over half of the United States is overweight and some are more so, they are considered obese.

Homosexuality is about only 3% of the nation and some of those people want to have loving and caring relationships.

Obesity and glutton type behaviors are rampant in the United States. It isn't only food that people are stuffing down their throats but people are using debt as a way to "have everything they want".
I've often wondered the same thing, I can only recall ever hearing preaching on the dangers of gluttony a couple of times in my life. I think it is one of the least-discussed, biggest-problem areas in the body of Christ. I'm an average size guy (6'4, 210 lbs.) - by most people's perception, in decent shape, however, I had a back injury last year, and the doctor told me, it wouldn't hurt for me to shed some pounds after my surgery. While in the hospital I realized what "right-size" portions were and how rarely I adhered to those in the past. Since then, I am much more conscious about what I put into my body, and while I still allow myself to splurge now and then, it's not easy to have the discipline that God calls us to have in that area of life just like any other. I know others close to me that struggle w/eating and use it as a way to 'comfort' themselves. I think part of it is it's such a private matter for the most part since most of our eating is done in private (similar to the pornography epidemic that is occuring in America), and it's hard to confront a fellow believer about it. I mean it's not exactly easy to go up to your friend and say, "I've noticed in the past few months you seem to be putting on a few pounds...we need to pray about this." A lot of people would get ticked and stop being your friend! So I think it's a touchy area, but something that definitely needs to be addressed.
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Old 10-12-2008, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Ruidoso NM
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I think it would be good to hear preaching on Gluttony, and other sins from the pulpit again. I think preachers today teach or are teachers more than they are preachers.
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Old 10-12-2008, 09:19 PM
 
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If homosexuality is mentioned as being a sin in church then I want to hear how gluttony, sloth, telling little white harmless lies, eating pork, etc. are also SINS regardless of what category they fall under.
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Old 10-12-2008, 09:59 PM
 
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If homosexuality is mentioned as being a sin in church then I want to hear how gluttony, sloth, telling little white harmless lies, eating pork, etc. are also SINS regardless of what category they fall under.
AG, homosexuality is mentioned as a sin according to the Bible, not the church. Not sure where eating pork comes into your post but it's not a sin to eat pork.
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Old 10-13-2008, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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I think it would be good to hear preaching on Gluttony, and other sins from the pulpit again. I think preachers today teach or are teachers more than they are preachers.
True. Too many churches today either preach the prosperity gospel, or the fire-and-brimstone gospel which usually revolves around homosexuality and America's national apostasy. I think gluttony is overlooked because far more people, especially in evangelical circles, are guilty of it. As the past few weeks have seen, gluttony can be just as threatening to our society as the more common sins preached against like abortion and homosexuality.

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AG, homosexuality is mentioned as a sin according to the Bible, not the church. Not sure where eating pork comes into your post but it's not a sin to eat pork.
Eating pork comes from Old Testament law, but that was part of the ceremonial law that no longer applies today.
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Old 10-13-2008, 05:53 PM
 
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Homosexuals have different brains than normal straight men. So give them a break. Have some brotherly love and peace towards people that you find despicable and vile.

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First of all homosexuality is a moral issue that affects our whole society as far as "gluttony" is a huge sin, not just overeating but if you look at the what's left of the stock market today. You see it first hand

Both of them are wrong in the eyes of God.
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Old 10-13-2008, 05:54 PM
 
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Homosexuality bashing is old testament law too.

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Eating pork comes from Old Testament law, but that was part of the ceremonial law that no longer applies today.
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Old 10-13-2008, 06:06 PM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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It is odd, but although Arkansas is one of the states with the most obese people, there are very, very, few obese people in the congregations that I am familiar with. Perhaps it is more prevalent in other religious groups???


Also, a lot of obesity may be more due to what they eat, instead of how much??

Then too, there are some people who can eat like hogs and not gain an ounce! There is one man ( not a member of our faith) that sometimes comes to our potlucks with relatives that are members. He is a glutton, at least when at potlucks, and yet he is not fat. He is also mentally deficient, so I do not know how accountable he is for his gluttony.
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