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Old 10-28-2008, 08:53 AM
 
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Since Alicenevada left the discussion, just wondering if there are any Jehovah's Witnesses continuing in this discussion. The title of the thread is 'Question for Jehovahs Witnesses'. Your discussion might misinterpret the beliefs of JW's.
Just a thought
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:54 AM
 
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Since Alicenevada left the discussion, just wondering if there are any Jehovah's Witnesses continuing in this discussion. The title of the thread is 'Question for Jehovahs Witnesses'. Your discussion might misinterpret the beliefs of JW's.
Just a thought
My question is if we don't worship the SAME Jesus. How in the world can Jw(s) think they are Christian?
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Old 10-28-2008, 09:27 AM
 
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My question is if we don't worship the SAME Jesus. How in the world can Jw(s) think they are Christian?

When you say 'we don't worship the SAME Jesus', I guess I don't know which Jesus you think JW's worship. Or do you mean that we don't worship Jesus the same way?

I am not yet a baptised JW, but I will try to answer your question to the best of my ability.
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Old 10-28-2008, 09:31 AM
 
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When you say 'we don't worship the SAME Jesus', I guess I don't know which Jesus you think JW's worship. Or do you mean that we don't worship Jesus the same way?

I am not yet a baptised JW, but I will try to answer your question to the best of my ability.
Well I believe Jesus to be the Son of God and God himself yet you believe Him to be Michael. Not the same Jesus.

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Old 10-28-2008, 11:25 AM
 
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Well I believe Jesus to be the Son of God and God himself yet you believe Him to be Michael. Not the same Jesus.
You're right, JW's, I, and many others not affiliated with JW's do not believe that Jesus IS God. The trinity is debatable, and has been debated to no end on here as to its scriptural soundness. Alice has already provided scriptures here or on another post that explain Michael.

From the scriptures I understand that Christians are to model themselves after Jesus, following in his footsteps. I pray to God through Jesus. I live my life by the standards and principles in the bible. I consider myself a follower of Christ. I will someday be baptised. Doesn't that make me a Christian?
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:33 AM
 
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Why pray to Jesus if you say He's not God..

Wouldnt that be idolatry?

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You're right, JW's, I, and many others not affiliated with JW's do not believe that Jesus IS God. The trinity is debatable, and has been debated to no end on here as to its scriptural soundness. Alice has already provided scriptures here or on another post that explain Michael.

From the scriptures I understand that Christians are to model themselves after Jesus, following in his footsteps. I pray to God through Jesus. I live my life by the standards and principles in the bible. I consider myself a follower of Christ. I will someday be baptised. Doesn't that make me a Christian?
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:46 AM
 
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Why pray to Jesus if you say He's not God..

Wouldnt that be idolatry?
Well hey there Ren...
I didn't say I pray to Jesus, I said I pray to God THROUGH Jesus.
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:56 AM
 
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Why would you need to go through Jesus?

Praying THROUGH someone IS Idolatry.

You shouldn't be praying to anyone BUT God.

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Well hey there Ren...
I didn't say I pray to Jesus, I said I pray to God THROUGH Jesus.
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Old 10-28-2008, 12:17 PM
 
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Why would you need to go through Jesus?

Praying THROUGH someone IS Idolatry.

You shouldn't be praying to anyone BUT God.

Again, I know that I nor JW's are alone in the belief that Jesus is our intercessor when praying to God.

Speaking for myself, the scriptures that show me it is proper to pray to God through Jesus are John 14:13, 14 & 2 Corinthians 1:20.
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Old 10-28-2008, 01:02 PM
 
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13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

Since when does/did God share glory with anyone else who isn't God?

These scriptures would only make sense if you believe that Jesus is God

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Again, I know that I nor JW's are alone in the belief that Jesus is our intercessor when praying to God.

Speaking for myself, the scriptures that show me it is proper to pray to God through Jesus are John 14:13, 14 & 2 Corinthians 1:20.
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