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Old 10-13-2008, 03:24 PM
 
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There is nothing in the bible that says, suicide is the unforgivable sin, that was a made up Roman Catholic belief that managed to transcend in protestant teaching as well.

The only unforgivable sin is dieing in your sins without repenting and putting your trust in Christ.
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Shade Tn
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If my memory serves me correctly didn't Jdubs believe that Jesus was God the Father. I believe they did.
Not sure what you're referencing. The bold type you highlighted is referring to 1st century Christians.
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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actually blaspheming the Holy Spirit is unforgivable.

How can you later repent after committing suicide?

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There is nothing in the bible that says, suicide is the unforgivable sin, that was a made up Roman Catholic belief that managed to transcend in protestant teaching as well.

The only unforgivable sin is dieing in your sins without repenting and putting your trust in Christ.
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Shade Tn
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Actually it is highly disputed that the rich man and lazarus is not a parable. If it isn't what would be the Jdub's reason for the story Jesus told?
It is a parable. Therefore I can't speculate about its being fact. Look again at the context...it is set up almost identically to other parables Jesus told.
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:38 PM
 
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June is not denying that the issue of hell and whether a person goes there in the event he/she commits suicide is relavent to the OP.

However:

It needs to be kept in the context of "suicide" and the OP; as opposed to becoming a derailed thread about "hell."

--All I'm asking is for everyone to please remain on topic.

Thanks!

-June

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Old 10-13-2008, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Shade Tn
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Okey dokey. Then I'll just say: We are not the judges of men. Only God can determine whether someone who is desperate enough to commit suicide is doing so to grieve the Holy Spirit or simply mentally unstable, an imperfection of this world. Therefore, in comforting those who have lost a loved one to this horrible situation (my own uncle committed suicide five years ago), hopefully we will all leave the judgement of such ones to God and focus instead on the anguish of the surviving relatives.
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:54 PM
 
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Okey dokey. Then I'll just say: We are not the judges of men. Only God can determine whether someone who is desperate enough to commit suicide is doing so to grieve the Holy Spirit or simply mentally unstable, an imperfection of this world. Therefore, in comforting those who have lost a loved one to this horrible situation (my own uncle committed suicide five years ago), hopefully we will all leave the judgement of such ones to God and focus instead on the anguish of the surviving relatives.
Spot on. I want to see as He sees (don't we all desire to), and I consider what he sees in a murderer, rapist, etc. The causes behind these actions.

I can't judge.
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Old 10-13-2008, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Texas
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How can you later repent after committing suicide?
Really? You need some creativity lessons. I can think of a half dozen ways right off the top of my head. Many take the pills then change their minds (repent) and get their stomachs pumped and survive. Sometimes it's too late.
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Old 10-13-2008, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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Good point. LOL Sorry I'm not creative in how to lose my salvation lol



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Really? You need some creativity lessons. I can think of a half dozen ways right off the top of my head. Many take the pills then change their minds (repent) and get their stomachs pumped and survive. Sometimes it's too late.
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Old 08-19-2010, 07:47 PM
 
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When it comes right down to it Jesus committed suicide.
He had the supernatural power to stop Mr. Pilate from
sending him up to the cross.
Instead, he chose to become a martre.
And he certainly ain't in hell.
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