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Old 10-14-2008, 11:10 PM
 
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John 20:28
Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"

Thomas was speaking confessionally, not in using Gods name in vain.

Matthew 4:7
Jesus answered him, "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.' "
(the devils temptation of Jesus)

John 1:1-2, 14
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning....The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us
All true...but Jesus wasn`t God the Father.
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:12 PM
 
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Yes, and there are others that bare record also, but the main three are God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit (which is the connection to all of us).

Yes, He wasn't saying that He was the Father, He was pointing out His station in perfection and Oneness.


He was honoring the Father and the Son...Did He not know the full story?


US presents more than One, though they are one in purpose and spirit.



Jesus said; of that day and hour knoweth no one, Only the Father in Heaven.

Jesus said, Call me not good, There is one that is good, God



Scriptures also say there are lords many and gods many. Jesus even called them gods to whom the word of god came.
He said "Ye are gods" and the scriptures cannot be broken.

godspeed,

freedom
Why do you play with Jesus words? Jesus never said (Call me not good) This is a very dishonest statement. What Jesus really said is, (Why, do you call me Good? Jesus was asking an obvious question. You took out the word (why) which changes what Jesus said. It's not a good thing to play with Gods Word.
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:15 PM
 
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All true...but Jesus wasn`t God the Father.
Correct, Jesus was God the Son. And it was the Father who said of Jesus, "your throne oh God is forever and ever". So even the Father spoke of Jesus as God.
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Why do you play with Jesus words? Jesus never said (Call me not good) This is a very dishonest statement. What Jesus really said is, (Why, do you call me Good? Jesus was asking an obvious question. You took out the word (why) which changes what Jesus said. It's not a good thing to play with Gods Word.
Actually it goes like this... i was being lazy...

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.


As to playing with God's written word, the NIV translation has done more damage than i could ever do.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:23 PM
 
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Correct, Jesus was God the Son. And it was the Father who said of Jesus, "your throne oh God is forever and ever". So even the Father spoke of Jesus as God.
true...because the father is the one who gave Jesus his attributes and filled him with his spirit and fullness...making him God
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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true...because the father is the one who gave Jesus his attributes and filled him with his spirit and fullness...making him God
As He will do with all who ask, seek, and knock... and those who hunger and thirst after righteousness.

godspeed,


freedom
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:44 PM
 
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All true...but Jesus wasn`t God the Father.
True,
the Father isn't the Holy Spirit,
The Father isn't the Son
The Son isn't the Holy Spirit

but....
The Father is God
The Son is God
The Holy Spirit is God

not three Gods, but one God

All equal in majesty, honor and worthy of praise.
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Houston,Tx
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In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.The earth was unformed and void,darkness was on the face of the deep,and the Ruach of God hovered over the surface of the water.Then God said,''Let there be light'';and there was light.
In the beginning was the Word,and the Word was with God,and the Word was God.He was with God in the beginning.All things came to be through him,and without him nothing made had being.
For to us a child is born,to us a son is given : and the government is upon his shoulders:and his name is called Pele-Yo'etz- El-Gibbor-Avi-'Ad-Sar-Shalom,(Wonder of a Counselor,Mighty God,Father of Eternity,Prince of Peace),in order to extend the dominion and perpetuate the peace of the throne and kingdom of David,to secure it and sustain it through justice and righteousness henceforth and forever.The zeal of ADONAI-TZA'OT will accomplish this.
In the beginning when God spoke,''Let there be light.'',when he uttered his Word,his Word took form,In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.........and the Word became flesh and dwelt among men.God is so powerful and mighty as to confound our wisdom.Praise be to El-Shaddai !
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:28 AM
 
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In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.The earth was unformed and void,darkness was on the face of the deep,and the Ruach of God hovered over the surface of the water.Then God said,''Let there be light'';and there was light.
In the beginning was the Word,and the Word was with God,and the Word was God.He was with God in the beginning.All things came to be through him,and without him nothing made had being.
For to us a child is born,to us a son is given : and the government is upon his shoulders:and his name is called Pele-Yo'etz- El-Gibbor-Avi-'Ad-Sar-Shalom,(Wonder of a Counselor,Mighty God,Father of Eternity,Prince of Peace),in order to extend the dominion and perpetuate the peace of the throne and kingdom of David,to secure it and sustain it through justice and righteousness henceforth and forever.The zeal of ADONAI-TZA'OT will accomplish this.
In the beginning when God spoke,''Let there be light.'',when he uttered his Word,his Word took form,In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.........and the Word became flesh and dwelt among men.God is so powerful and mighty as to confound our wisdom.Praise be to El-Shaddai !
That is how I understand it as well.
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:13 AM
 
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Actually it goes like this... i was being lazy...

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.


As to playing with God's written word, the NIV translation has done more damage than i could ever do.

godspeed,

freedom
I agree with your NIV statement, but remember, two wrongs don't make a right.
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