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Old 10-21-2008, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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1. You're supposed to 'forgive'
2. Gays live a lifestyle. If they repented then they will receive the same forgiveness as any other sin.
3. How many times did all these people get pregnant before marriage?
4. Christians are concerned with SINS not if you smell good or take bathes. Well bathes should be a given...

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I know they weren't recruiting people with cash only incomes and no credit history (i.e., illegal immigrants) for mortgages until around 2003. From what I can see, it wasn't until then that people who couldn't afford homes were sucked into crazy mortgages they didn't understand. That's on Bush's watch. This economy had one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel the past few years. If not mortgages, something else would have brought it down, like China recalling our debt.

She's a hypocrite plain and simple. I grew up around Christians and none of the girls I knew in high school got pregnant. It's also hypocritical for the Evangelicals to easily forgive Mooselini's daughter for getting knocked up (Oh, it's just one of those things that happens in families), yet a gay person living a clean, respectable life needs to be treated like a 3rd class citizen.
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Old 10-21-2008, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Seward, Alaska
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I'm wondering what he could have done with the massive amount of "Executive Orders" he signed.

Executive Orders Issued by President George W. Bush (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/orders/ - broken link)

Ten Bush Executive Orders to Toss Solar Kismet (http://solarkismet.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/ten-bush-executive-orders-to-toss/ - broken link)

Obama Would Order Review Of Bush's Executive Orders

And this final link is a fun one..

Look at all the executive orders before "W".. then look at the number that "W" signed. Disgusting is a word that comes to mind. Abuse of power are a couple more..

List of United States federal executive orders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yup! That's another reason I'm not voting Rep this time...we need an entirely new administration in the WH...not a re-vamped old one...

Bud
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:55 PM
 
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Obama calls himself a Christian yet he believes there is more than one path to heaven. That's called heresy.

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McCain calls himself a Christian yet he is an adulterer who has not been baptized after repenting and is not "born-again" - renriq02, according to your criteria he is not a Christian either, now
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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I'm a Christian first, Republican second.

Democrats support values that are not in the best interest of Christians.

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McCain calls himself a Christian yet he is an adulterer who has not been baptized after repenting and is not "born-again" - renriq02, according to your criteria he is not a Christian either, now
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:15 PM
 
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Yeah democrats support values like helping poor people and social issues. Jesus would have hated those things! Yuck!

Jeez poor people sure are annoying.
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:01 AM
 
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Exactly! It started with Reagan's dillusion that corporations she be able to do as they please at society's expense and went downhill from there. The magical "free market" that just fixes everything. Just think if the Republicans got their way and privatized Social Security - where would we all be now with the stock market where it's at?
It was not deregulation that screwed up everything. Deregulation made it possible for consumers to get goods at afforadable prices because business had to compete. What screwed up everything is when Democrats starting in 1999 during the Clinton years started to put pressure on banks. Democrats like Barny Frank and others said the banks were being unfair to the poor. They pressured the banks to give loans to the poor even when they knew the poor could not afford the loans in the first place. Then they told the banks that tax payers money would be used to support the loans if the poor could not pay the loan back. AND GUESS WHAT? THE POOR COULD NOT PAY THE LOANS OFF. So now these same Democrats are saying it was Bush's fault. Democrats do what they do best. They blame everyone else for their screw ups, and get the uninformed to believe them.
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Old 10-22-2008, 07:47 AM
 
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It was not deregulation that screwed up everything. Deregulation made it possible for consumers to get goods at afforadable prices because business had to compete. What screwed up everything is when Democrats starting in 1999 during the Clinton years started to put pressure on banks. Democrats like Barny Frank and others said the banks were being unfair to the poor. They pressured the banks to give loans to the poor even when they knew the poor could not afford the loans in the first place. Then they told the banks that tax payers money would be used to support the loans if the poor could not pay the loan back. AND GUESS WHAT? THE POOR COULD NOT PAY THE LOANS OFF. So now these same Democrats are saying it was Bush's fault. Democrats do what they do best. They blame everyone else for their screw ups, and get the uninformed to believe them.
1999 huh? So magically these poor people have been able to make payments on their house since 1999.. but just now.. in 2008 is when they magically can't make their payments. 9 years.

Commodity Modernization Act. Look it up. Without that none of this could have happened. Without CDS and the ponzi scheme it produced housing prices wouldn't have sky rocketed.
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:09 AM
 
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McCain calls himself a Christian yet he is an adulterer who has not been baptized after repenting and is not "born-again" - renriq02, according to your criteria he is not a Christian either, now
This is a false accusation!!! He already claimed, his marriage was over and his ex-wife hasn't claimed any different!!
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:16 AM
 
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Yeah democrats support values like helping poor people and social issues. Jesus would have hated those things! Yuck!

Jeez poor people sure are annoying.
Why is that Democrats don't promote finding jobs and using birth control. Are they really helping or are they making the poor dependent on them.

The way the rest of our nation is going, we are all going to be dependent on the government.

I find it ridiculous, the way on this thread and others people are for "Womens Rights to Choose". Do any of you know what goes on inside an abortion clinic. Try visiting one!! Do you realize the emotional toll it takes on SOME women, women die in these places. They are cold and no comfort and NO SUPPORT when you leave.

If your going to fight for "Women's Rights", then fight for the use of BIRTH CONTROL and stop the Planned Parenthood from making money off of killing babies.
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:18 AM
 
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This is a false accusation!!! He already claimed, his marriage was over and his ex-wife hasn't claimed any different!!
Huh..

cause this says different:

McCain needed a divorce from Carol, his wife of 14 years from whom he was separated. After McCain's dramatic homecoming from Vietnam, the couple grew apart. Their marriage began disintegrating while McCain was stationed in Jacksonville. McCain has admitted to having extramarital affairs.

McCain Profile: Arizona, the early years

what exactly does extramarital mean?

Lets go to the dictionary for a definiton:

extramarital - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
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