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Old 10-20-2008, 12:54 PM
 
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Jesus said on two different occasions... "thy faith hath saved thee".
Big faith? Little faith? Faith in what?
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Old 10-20-2008, 12:55 PM
 
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And faith is an active word...it means doing what you have been instructed to do.
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Old 10-20-2008, 01:07 PM
 
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And faith is an active word...it means doing what you have been instructed to do.
So what had the blind man been instructed to do, causing Jesus to heal him and say "Thy faith hath saved thee?" (Luke 18:35-43)
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Old 10-20-2008, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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So what had the blind man been instructed to do, causing Jesus to heal him and say "Thy faith hath saved thee?" (Luke 18:35-43)
He wasn't instructed to do anything, He called on Jesus to come heal him. He had faith that it could be done.

Then this was said of what the blind man did.

Luk 18:43 And immediately he received his sight, and followed him, glorifying God: and all the people, when they saw [it], gave praise unto God.


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Old 10-20-2008, 01:25 PM
 
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He wasn't instructed to do anything, He called on Jesus to come heal him. He had faith that it could be done.

Then this was said of what the blind man did.

Luk 18:43 And immediately he received his sight, and followed him, glorifying God: and all the people, when they saw [it], gave praise unto God.
Amen!

He had faith in Jesus' power to heal... not "faith in his faith". And he proved this faith by calling out to Jesus, knowing he was weak and blind. In this way, his faith saved him. Faith without works is dead, and it would have got him nowhere.

So, back to your point about "what saves you" being "faith", then really, this is only partially true.. if we have faith in Jesus' power to save us, this moves us to call on Him. He saves us. We are saved through faith, by grace. Not saved by our own faith or good deeds.
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Old 10-20-2008, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Montrose, CA
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And faith is an active word...it means doing what you have been instructed to do.
Wouldn't "doing what you have been instructed to do" be obedience rather than faith?
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Old 10-20-2008, 01:33 PM
 
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Wouldn't "doing what you have been instructed to do" be obedience rather than faith?
Good point! Obedience shows, or proves, our faith. Faith and obedience work together, but are not the same thing.
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Old 10-20-2008, 01:38 PM
 
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Only those who repent are covered by the sacrifice of Jesus. Before that time, the unconverted are still judged by the law which convicts of sin.
Romans 5:18 disagrees with you:

"In conclusion, just as through one transgression condemnation came upon all, so through one righteous act acquittal and life came to all."

Or do you have a different definition of "all" than I do?
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Old 10-20-2008, 01:43 PM
 
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Romans 5:18 disagrees with you:

"In conclusion, just as through one transgression condemnation came upon all, so through one righteous act acquittal and life came to all."

Or do you have a different definition of "all" than I do?
Well, I don't really want to turn this into a universalist thread, but this verse has come up often in threads about that teaching. Yes, Jesus died for all sin that has ever been or will ever be committed, and the sacrifice is "big enough" that there is enough for all.. but unfortunately not all will repent, which we must do to accept this sin remedy and inherit eternal life.
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Old 10-20-2008, 01:44 PM
 
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Are you saying Jesus died for the sins of Abraham?



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Romans 5:18 disagrees with you:

"In conclusion, just as through one transgression condemnation came upon all, so through one righteous act acquittal and life came to all."

Or do you have a different definition of "all" than I do?
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