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Old 10-21-2008, 10:32 AM
 
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...what does it mean?
As in the days of Amos, a famine fell on the land - not of bread or water, but of hearing the words of the LORD (Amos 8:11).

This period preceeded His entrance...
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:37 AM
 
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As in the days of Amos, a famine fell on the land - not of bread or water, but of hearing the words of the LORD (Amos 8:11).

This period preceeded His entrance...
So Jesus has the name of "The Lord Our Righteousness" and it means a famine preceded His entrance?

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK

Freedom, what say you?
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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so the question is...what is the yoke that Jesus was talking about?

Not many people know..and if they do know...they dont do it.

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I don't know about anyone else, but I need Jesus to do the heavy lifting because without HIM I can do nothing and there is nothing worth doing. In fact my troubles really begin when I try to take matters into my own hands. Jesus said "come onto me all ye that are heavy laden for my burden is easy and my yoke is light." The implication here is that Jesus wants to do the "heavy lifting". We can seek to be righteous, but our righteousness is nothing. We need HIS righteousness because only HE has paid the price...
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:50 AM
 
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So Jesus has the name of "The Lord Our Righteousness" and it means a famine preceded His entrance?

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK
He is exactly "The Lord our Righteousness".

You don't agree?
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:50 AM
 
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He is speaking about the Jews and Israel.

There hasn't been any other people that have been scattered like the Jews and driven out of their own land.

This is why the last verse reads

In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely:

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GREAT!

OK, I'm not gonna try and 'sell' you anything or really even try and convince you of anything. I'm just going to lay God's Word out there and ask you some questions.

I'm simply going to show you what I read one night in study and you can do with it whatever you feel God would have you do.

Remember to keep your OP in mind as I share these scriptures.

In the following passage, who is this referring to and what is the significance of the passage telling us His name and what does His name mean?

Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.

Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.

And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.

And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. Jer 23:1-6 (emphasis added to 5 and 6)
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:57 AM
 
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He is speaking about the Jews and Israel.

There hasn't been any other people that have been scattered like the Jews and driven out of their own land.

This is why the last verse reads

In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely:
Still applies - the hope of Israel (and Judah) still rests with the Messiah, and I respectively believe you're looking at things in a natural light, rather than spiritual.
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Old 10-21-2008, 11:07 AM
 
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I see it in both aspects but to see it in a spiritual sense is being 'hopeful'

Romans 11

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

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Still applies - the hope of Israel (and Judah) still rests with the Messiah, and I respectively believe you're looking at things in a natural light, rather than spiritual.
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Old 10-21-2008, 11:08 AM
 
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OK, you totally missed my point. I'm not calling you a scatterer....let's just look at verses 5 and 6 then, the ones I bolded.

Who is that and what does it mean?

Also, simple question, who redeems us?
God redeems us through Christ.

Simply put, the redeemed are only those that hear His voice, and a stranger they will not follow...

The key is to follow Him.

Those that reject Christ, certainly are not sheparded by Jesus, they are lost, and if lost then they can't hear his voice.

Eye's to see, ears to hear.

When some see the words. The Lord OUR Righteousness, they take it to mean that He is righteous for us, or in place of us, rather than to look at the gift He brought of renewed wisdom, a knowledge of Promise in His ways.

How is He our Righteousness, if we do not seek to keep His word. We are no different than the Scribes and Pharisee's, thinking if they did all these outward acts, that they would be saved.

The path is inward, it is the path of Love and Faith, the kind that leads to righteousness, as the law made nothing righteous, the bringing of a better hope (Way) did.

We either choose to live His promise or not, if we don't... He certainly is not OUR righteousness, because we are not His.

godspeed,


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Old 10-21-2008, 11:13 AM
 
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I see it in both aspects but to see it in a spiritual sense is being 'hopeful'

Romans 11

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
The seed of Christ has been planted in us, and the Spirit will tend to that seed. Then out of Sion (us) the Deliverer will come.
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Old 10-21-2008, 11:17 AM
 
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The seed of Christ has been planted in us, and the Spirit will tend to that seed. Then out of Sion (us) the Deliverer will come.
Zion (Sion) = The pure in heart.



godspeed,


freedom
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