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Actually, our country was intentionally not founded on any religious principles nor Judeo-Christian laws. Instead, it was greatly influenced by philosophers and philosophies of the enlightenment era, including John Locke and Montesquieu. In fact, Thomas Jefferson all but plagiarized Locke's writing in the Declaration of Independence.
Actually, our country was intentionally not founded on any religious principles nor Judeo-Christian laws. Instead, it was greatly influenced by philosophers and philosophies of the enlightenment era, including John Locke and Montesquieu. In fact, Thomas Jefferson all but plagiarized Locke's writing in the Declaration of Independence.
We were speaking specifically of moral laws...homosexuality, cohabitation, pre-marital sex. Those were/are based on Judaeo-Christian beliefs. Many states do have laws against each of those (among others).
Actually, it wasn't Christianity that began the moral laws...it was God's laws to the Israelites. And if you think about it, maybe God just wanted to keep his people from having all the diseases and unhappiness that most of those things cause. And since our nation adopted many of these laws, that kinda shows that our country was built on Judaeo-Christian beliefs, right?
These aren't federal laws, so they weren't adopted by our country, only by a number of states and localities, mainly in the Bible belt, who's legislatures pandered to the Christian right and who knew that his Christian constituents supported these laws.
These aren't federal laws, so they weren't adopted by our country, only by a number of states and localities, mainly in the Bible belt, who's legislatures pandered to the Christian right and who knew that his Christian constituents supported these laws.
YOU are the one who said Christianity is the reason for the old laws against these things!
Originally Posted by Amaznjohn
Christianity is the reason for the old laws against pre-marital sex, homosexual acts, and co-habitating, evidence that most Christians DO want to legislate morality according to the Bible.
YOU are the one who said Christianity is the reason for the old laws against these things!
Originally Posted by Amaznjohn
Christianity is the reason for the old laws against pre-marital sex, homosexual acts, and co-habitating, evidence that most Christians DO want to legislate morality according to the Bible.
Yes, and my point stands. Not many of these laws were decided by a referendum but by the state and local legistatures whose Christian constituents wanted these laws passed.
Actually, it wasn't Christianity that began the moral laws...it was God's laws to the Israelites. And if you think about it, maybe God just wanted to keep his people from having all the diseases and unhappiness that most of those things cause. And since our nation adopted many of these laws, that kinda shows that our country was built on Judaeo-Christian beliefs, right?
That’s seems quite a stretch to claim the US is built on Judeo-Christian beliefs since the nation adopted “many of these laws”. It’s not really many when you look at how many laws were actually created. Maybe if you only look at laws that are similar to the bible, then yes, you’ll get a distorted view.
If our nation is created on Judeo-Christian beliefs, please explain to us in the laws of the bible where it explains a democracy? Out nation is a Democracy; is that a Judeo-Christian law? Out nation is also a Republic where we elect representatives to wield our political power, Do you know where we got our idea for a Republic, from the Romans, Not the bible.
The Constitution creates our form of government and has the principle of equal justice under the law. Whether you’re a believer, non-believer, Liberal, Conservative, Black, Asian, White, rich, poor, et al, it doesn’t matter. Was this a Judeo-Christian belief in the bible equal protection under the laws? Wasn’t our current legal system based on English common law? Have you looked into the history of Roman law and the Roman legal system?
Nope, just because we may have adopted some laws that happened to be in the bible, among other historical documents, it doesn’t equate to the US being built on Judeo-Christian beliefs. If it was, wouldn’t the US capitol have more buildings that resemble Churches or Synagogues? What type of architecture would you describe the White House, the Capitol, and other public buildings. Do they resemble religious institutions?
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A follower of Christ in the true sense of having,first confessed and asked for
forgiveness of all past sins, and Jesus to come into my life and make me whole
again(Shalom) nothing missing,nothing broken. and to be a disciple of Christ
as instructed by our great apostle Paul and the others. to have a relationship
with our Saviour personal, no outward performances, but to simply have Him in
my heart and show my fellow men the personified Christ through the fruits of
the Spirit, Love ,peace, joy,meekness,longsuffering,patience,forgiveness, and the likes, to be a witness by testimony and share my faith with as many others
as I possibly can,
A Christian, by definition, is a follower of Christ, a disciple who lives and practices what Christ taught. However, some people's interpretation of what Christ taught is very different than others. Some people think He just wanted His disciples to love and accept everyone else. Others feel He came for a much bigger reason, and love and acceptance is only part of that.
Personally, I would recommend reading the Gospel of John to get an extremely well-rounded view of Christ's life and mission while He was in this world. But, of course, its also necessary to read the rest of the Bible to see how God's plan started, continued, and how it will eventually turn out.
Rep Time!!!!!!!!!!!
Well rounded, discipleship, very balanced
The Gospel of John was written about 100 AD. I think a better source is the "Jesus Sayings" that scholars have found imbedded in the earlier works. Mark was written first. Probably in Alexandria. By John's time the stories had evolved quite a bit. The Sunday school version satisfies most peoples need for faith and hope -- for those who want to get an inkling of how things developed the history of Christianity is quite fascinating. I recommend three books: John Dominic Crossan "The Birth of Christianity", John D. Crossan and Jonathan Reed "Excavating Jesus" and Burton Mack, "The Lost Gospel-The Book of Q & Christian Origina."
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