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Old 10-29-2008, 05:58 PM
 
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To me putting God in a box is reading his words, be clear that you know what they are are saying and then judging harshly anyone who may see them from a different angle.

It is still a box only it is the "right" box by the perspective of the box holder.

Better to not worry about others and judge them [he did say that HE judges, and for us not to] and just let your light shine.
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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First of all, I clearly and intentionally said; some are putting God in a box. So if you feel the need to defend yourself and accuse me of outwardly judging you, if the shoe fits....................by all means wear it.

LOVE. It's a word that comes and goes. Do you really know what it is? And by chance you do, how can you contain it? How?

I don't know about you, but the nights and days that I cried, Jesus loved me! When I could'nt go on, He loved me! When others left me, forsaken me, He loved me! When I thought I was losing my mind, He loved me! When I was out there in the world, loving no other but myself, He loved me! When I should have died, He loved! When I buried my mother exactly 10 days ago, He loved me! When I thought I could'nt go on, YES, He loved me! And maybe I'll never know why, but He loves me. Now I know what it means to love somebody. How can I contain it? I can't.

I love my children and I'm their mother. How much more does God love them? That He created me to love them while here on earth? That He give me His own gifts for my own? How greater is the giver of the gifts, than the gifts themselves? He loved me enough to trust me with them. So you see, I cannot contain this love of Christ Jesus and believe that I have it all figured out! I must spread the good news of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ! I could'nt contain this if I wanted to! That I know how far and wide is His capacity to love is? That I dare twist His words to suit my wants? That my mind have "got" it downpact? That He doesn't even exist? That I am so disrespectful, I think I can know His ways? His thoughts?

NO. The "uncontainable box".....................be it for you, whatever it is, your mind, your education, your intellect, your theology, your money, whatever, it can't hold Him. HE'S A Wonder!


Only in love I come to you, your sister in Christ Jesus
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:48 PM
 
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I was not attacking you - just saying that we all are capable of trying to put God in a box.
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Old 10-30-2008, 01:13 AM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Betsey,

I would suggest you take a few deep breaths and calm down ....... your first post came across very condemning (maybe people were reacting to the tone of your first post rather than thinking that the shoe fit them) ....I also feel your awe at how wonderful our God and saviour is and that he is even more awesome than what I can imagine ... how merciful, gracious, just and holy.

All humans are limited Betsey, by our perceptions, by our background, by a lot of things ........ that is just part of being a human.

That does not prevent me from seeking for truth and not being carried away totally by emotion ..... I feel that when we rely only on our emotion that we are easily led by any spirit and scripture can be twisted/used by anyone to support any teaching.

You seem to be impling that since we can not know exactly how wonderful he is and to what degree that there is no point in trying to learn what we can.
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Pilot Point, TX
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You seem to be impling that since we can not know exactly how wonderful he is and to what degree that there is no point in trying to learn what we can.
I admit to having trouble with "studying to show ourselves approved" (2 Tim 2:15) when in fact He is "unsearchable, and his ways past finding out" (Rom 11:33).

Oh, that we were so full of Him that our thoughts were not preoccupied with doctrinal debate or trying to count the innumerable! Like Him, if we could be so inclined to overflow!

He can raise the dead!
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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If we think we are putting God in a box, it is really us that are put in the box.

Boxes have walls, walls keep the expanse of infinity from our vision.
There is a womb effect in a box.... we feel comforted and safe.

Though we are not here to feel safe, we are here to feel out of control that we might go to the one that is in control.



godspeed,

freedom
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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Default Carry on...............

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Betsey,

I would suggest you take a few deep breaths and calm down ....... your first post came across very condemning (maybe people were reacting to the tone of your first post rather than thinking that the shoe fit them) ....I also feel your awe at how wonderful our God and saviour is and that he is even more awesome than what I can imagine ... how merciful, gracious, just and holy.

All humans are limited Betsey, by our perceptions, by our background, by a lot of things ........ that is just part of being a human.

That does not prevent me from seeking for truth and not being carried away totally by emotion ..... I feel that when we rely only on our emotion that we are easily led by any spirit and scripture can be twisted/used by anyone to support any teaching.

You seem to be impling that since we can not know exactly how wonderful he is and to what degree that there is no point in trying to learn what we can.


At 3:13 A.M., not only was I taking a few deep breaths and very calm, but I'm sure I was also snoring. At least that's what they tell me. Condemning, judgmental? That's not my job. I posted, you responded. That we can agree to disagree, learned that a while back. What you're not going to do, is turn this into a something that it's not. At least not with me, Betsey. I don't bite that easily. God Bless.


Your sister in Christ Jesus
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Hickville USA
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At 3:13 A.M., not only was I taking a few deep breaths and very calm, but I'm sure I was also snoring. At least that's what they tell me. Condemning, judgmental? That's not my job. I posted, you responded. That we can agree to disagree, learned that a while back. What you're not going to do, is turn this into a something that it's not. At least not with me, Betsey. I don't bite that easily. God Bless.


Your sister in Christ Jesus
I hope you slept well, Betsey. I read your op and all it is is truth, there's nothing condemning about it especially since no certain person or people were mentioned. It is what is happening here and in the rw, and it makes true Christians upset when God and His Word are twisted beyond recognition.

His Word will prevail of course, but it still stings badly when we see the blatant and deliberate attempts at destroying it. If it makes us feel that way, I can only begin to imagine how it hurts our sweet Savior and Lord.

What a patient and loving God we have!!! God bless you Sister Betsey and you have every right to express what you did. We are all (Christians) feeling it and reacting to it.

We are standing on the brink of deliverance from this cruel and evil world and that is one thing we can definitely put in our "uncontainable box"!!!
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:59 AM
 
Location: On a road heaven bound !
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I hope you slept well, Betsey. I read your op and all it is is truth, there's nothing condemning about it especially since no certain person or people were mentioned. It is what is happening here and in the rw, and it makes true Christians upset when God and His Word are twisted beyond recognition.

His Word will prevail of course, but it still stings badly when we see the blatant and deliberate attempts at destroying it. If it makes us feel that way, I can only begin to imagine how it hurts our sweet Savior and Lord.

What a patient and loving God we have!!! God bless you Sister Betsey and you have every right to express what you did. We are all (Christians) feeling it and reacting to it.

We are standing on the brink of deliverance from this cruel and evil world and that is one thing we can definitely put in our "uncontainable box"!!!
Amen!!! Northsouth.....
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:39 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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At 3:13 A.M., not only was I taking a few deep breaths and very calm, but I'm sure I was also snoring. At least that's what they tell me. Condemning, judgmental? That's not my job. I posted, you responded. That we can agree to disagree, learned that a while back. What you're not going to do, is turn this into a something that it's not. At least not with me, Betsey. I don't bite that easily. God Bless.


Your sister in Christ Jesus
I'm pleased you slept well, God bless you too
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