100 arguments against the deity of Jesus (prayer, Isaac, Jacob, Isaiah)
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I don't mind if sometimes I don't understand God, and if he's a mystery to me...
So if you argue against Jesus, he will also argue to God not to let you in Heaven! - I wouldn't risk that!
I think He said if anyone denounces Him He will also denounce him to his Father.
If you deniy me before man, I will deny you before the Father....Deny what exactly?...
"I and the father are one" "He who has seen me has seen the father"~~ To me that shows that Christ is one with his Father. They are parts of a whole. God the father, Jesus the son and the Holy Spirit. All one with different roles. God is a mystery and no one will have this all figured out here on earth.
He is only a mystery if you want Him to be...The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God...Read the Old Testament...Since the Father is Holy so is His Spirit Holy...
The Bible does mention several false gods, but I have never seen nor heard of a Bible that said Moses and Satan were gods. Satan was once an angel, but never a god.
Exo 7:1 And Jehovah said to Moses, See, I have made you a god to Pharaoh; and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet.
Psa 82:1 A Psalm of Asaph God stands in the assembly of the mighty; He judges in the midst of the gods.
Psa 82:2 Until when will you judge unjustly, and lift up the faces of the wicked? Selah.
Psa 82:3 Judge the poor and fatherless; do justice to the afflicted and needy.
Psa 82:4 Deliver the poor and needy; save out of the hand of the wicked.
Psa 82:5 They neither know nor will understand; they walk in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
Psa 82:6 I have said, You are gods, and all of you are sons of the Most High.
Psa 82:7 But you shall die as men, and fall like one of the rulers.
Psa 82:8 Rise, O God, judge the earth; for You shall inherit in all the nations.
Satan was an angel? Are you sure? Or are you listening to the church telling you that lucifer is satan? These are just more verses where the church is telling you what to believe. Where are the verses that plainly state that satan is lucifer and not someone`s interpretation that satan is lucifer?
I've read that Judaic thought was that HaSatan was a metaphor for the wicked desires of the flesh...Also that HaSatan was like a prosecuting attorney...Also that he was the adversary, tester a tool used by Hashem to develop man and test him...
John 8:58 (NIV) - "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"
Jesus himself is speaking and calling himself the I AM, which is the name God told Moses to tell the people of Israel was his name, so they would know Moses spoke with God. God = I AM; Jesus = I AM.
Revelation 1:8 (NIV) - "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."
Jesus revealed these words to John. This is Jesus speaking. Jesus is calling himself "The Almighty" which is what God called himself in OT. God = The Almighty; Jesus = The Almighty.
These two verses of many show that Jesus the Son and God the Father are ONE God, the same God. As this, IMO, refutes several of your points, I believe the rest can be dealt with similarly and therefore show that Jesus is Diety Supreme. Whether others agree or understand this is no reflection upon the truth of the matter -- that Jesus claimed he was God.
the Hebrew word that you are thinking of is Hawyaw and means 'I will exist/be'..Hayaw ashur hawyaw = I will be which I will be...This is not what Yeshua said...He said 'ego eemeh' = 'I am'...Not 'I exist'...
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