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Old 11-13-2008, 10:04 AM
 
Location: New York
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For the record, mr. Obama QUIT smoking at the start of the campaign as a promise to his wife and in light of the task he was about to undertake. Besides, I have no idea what that has to do with actual governing outside of it being rather stupid and risking health. Secondly, the pic was posted NOT to prove he is NOT wealthy, but by the standards of Bush and McCain, other politicians, he is a pauper.

 
Old 11-13-2008, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Pikeville, Ky.
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He did a great job of concealing that and many other aspects of his character during the election...

Those bad habits unfortunately will go with him into the most powerful office in the world...

godspeed,

freedom
Oh well, some of us like him and some of us don't Would be a great world if everyone believed our personal opinions, huh
 
Old 11-13-2008, 10:18 AM
 
Location: New York
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He did a great job of concealing that and many other aspects of his character during the election...

Those bad habits unfortunately will go with him into the most powerful office in the world...

godspeed,

freedom
You can't help yourself, can you, Freedom?
 
Old 11-13-2008, 10:34 AM
 
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For the record, mr. Obama QUIT smoking at the start of the campaign as a promise to his wife and in light of the task he was about to undertake. Besides, I have no idea what that has to do with actual governing outside of it being rather stupid and risking health. Secondly, the pic was posted NOT to prove he is NOT wealthy, but by the standards of Bush and McCain, other politicians, he is a pauper.
To be fair to Bush and McCain, we don't have pictures of the soles of their shoes (that I'm aware of) to compare to Obama's, so it's an unfair judgment to make.
 
Old 11-13-2008, 10:34 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Obama stands on the opposite side of many moral issues of the believers. Some of his past associations have been with communists, marxists, abortionists and black liberation theolgy. Looking at these facts there is much reason for concern. What as believers should we do???

First, I think we should remember that from before the foundation of the Republic, Godly men and women have cried out to the Lord for mercy and blessing on this land the Lord brought us to. We should remember, it is the Lord who searches hearts and minds and knows them.

Like it or not as of Jan 20 2009 he is our president. The Lord knows what is in Obama's heart and mind, we do not.

Many believers in this country are getting visions, dreams and/or a knowing in the spirit that terrible judgements are about to come on our nation. Again, what should we do?

I think we should begin to fast and pray for mercy for our nation and new president and that the Lord would give him the wisdom and courage to do God's will for our land. What do you think?
I think that this is a clear sign that someone needs to seek some help. I would think that Jesus believed in Communism and the freedom of all people. After all, didn't Jesus advocate for people to share with one another? Isn't that what Communism is ACTUALLY supposed to be about? If you don't understand Communism, you really shouldn't talk about how it's sinful.
 
Old 11-13-2008, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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You can't help yourself, can you, Freedom?
I'm trying to help others... be aware of what is going on...

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 11-13-2008, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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For the record, mr. Obama QUIT smoking at the start of the campaign as a promise to his wife and in light of the task he was about to undertake. Besides, I have no idea what that has to do with actual governing outside of it being rather stupid and risking health. Secondly, the pic was posted NOT to prove he is NOT wealthy, but by the standards of Bush and McCain, other politicians, he is a pauper.
Actually he broke that promise and his wife was none to happy about it...

He was daily bumming smokes off of people during the entire campaign.

godspeed,


freedom
 
Old 11-13-2008, 10:56 AM
 
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Addictions are an ugly thing, frredom.

....unless he's out of smokes and then smokers get down-right irrational.


I know what you mean, Alpha. My husband has been known to become testy if he runs out of smokes. Though, he has tried to quit many times.
 
Old 11-13-2008, 10:58 AM
 
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That's BS.
My father never smoked and the souls of his work shoes would wear out exactly like in that picture.
If you don't know that leather souls wear that way - I guess I'd say that it's obvious that you've never had a job where you were required to wear nice shoes...some people wear them every day of the week.

EDIT: I agree that the shoes are not a sign of him not being wealthy. Check out any random sample of wealthy, non-smoking professional men and you will find the same worn souls. Leather souls just do that.

Maybe it's just a set up for a photo op.
 
Old 11-13-2008, 11:00 AM
 
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ObHe painted a negative picture and blamed it all on Bush and the republicans.
No. The picture was painted. He simply pointed at the picture and rightfully told everyone that Mr. Bush was the artist.

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Furthermore, he offered himself as the one who will turn his negative picture, into a positive one.
Why would he offer himself as the person to make the picture more negative?

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He is a BSer, as are most politicians. It's a dirty business, a legalized scam.
Really? A BSer.. I actually think he has done more without having any power than any president elect I can think of.

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Most politicians live in a very tight group of the wealthy and wordly. I know this to be true from first hand observation.
I don't know what is AGI is. I'm quite sure he isn't poor. On the other hand he isn't Bill Gates either.

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They keep their private lives very secretive.
Well.. it is their "private lives" so they should be secretive.. otherwise it wouldn't be so "private" anymore.

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They consider most people to be commoners and only the wealthy and worldly-influential to be important. Every one else is/are simply there for their own purposes.
Most people are commoners. If you look at the "class" distribution in this country. I have no problem being a commoner. I disagree to your other statements.

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America is on it's last leg. Not because of the economy, but because of the falling away.
Let me rephrase to my POV: "America is on its last leg of 8 years of failed bush economics." That sounds much better.

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All the kings horses and all the kings men, can not put America back together again.
I don't want America back the way it was (full of hate and bigotry and fear etc etc etc). I'd like to see a new progressive America. Come with us America.. take a step out of the 1950's and join the rest of us. Its fun and shiny and warm and happy.. Whats that Mr. Bluebird on my shoulder? Yeah.. I'm happy to sir.

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All the kings horses and all the kings men, can not put America back together again.
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