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Again what does that have to do with Christianity or Judaism?
Do you see that in the bible where we should burn people at the stake to relieve pain women felt during childbirth?
Also, Lev,Numbers, and Deut are laws that were given to the Jewish people. Most of these laws do not apply to Gentiles as it is stated in the New Testament
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Well then, should we go back to burning people at the stake who helped relieve the pain women felt during childbirth?
If you want examples of how "God's word being eternal" , look at what God commandith in Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy and ask yourself if you are practicing those commands in your life today.
Our path or relationship with God has nothing to do with anyone else.
Are you indicating that if my wife is not living to God's standards that I shouldn't be spiritual or even a husband to her?
Women are called to submit whether her husband is living right with God or not. Submission doesnt overrule God's laws. If the husband is asking her to do something which is ungodly then she should not obey. If he asks her to do something Godly then she should obey.
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One last thing. I don't think God ever intended any woman to submit to a man who is not following God's path. Submission does not mean he gets his way. It means he follows God's way and if he does, she defers. When he doesn't, well, that's what God gave us brains for. Some men let power go to their heads. God never intended that. Any man who has to argue that his wife should submit probably doesn't deserve to have her submit. If they're doing it right, there's no issue here.
Again what does that have to do with Christianity or Judaism?
Do you see that in the bible where we should burn people at the stake to relieve pain women felt during childbirth?
Also, Lev,Numbers, and Deut are laws that were given to the Jewish people. Most of these laws do not apply to Gentiles as it is stated in the New Testament
Exactly my point!! Neither does the law, "women submit to your husbands" apply today.
Where did I write that something doesnt apply today?
I wrote something applies to Gentiles and/or Jews
Most of Paul's letters were written to Gentiles.
A lot of the verses are absolute in which it means it applies to today.
Please indicate where it says it doesn't apply to today.
If you think that then anyone can say that Jesus was the Savior for His time, and we have different Messiahs today.
BTW - Women submitting to their husbands is written in the NT.
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Originally Posted by jojajn
Exactly my point!! Neither does the law, "women submit to your husbands" apply today.
Where did I write that something doesnt apply today?
I wrote something applies to Gentiles and/or Jews
Most of Paul's letters were written to Gentiles.
A lot of the verses are absolute in which it means it applies to today.
Please indicate where it says it doesn't apply to today.
If you think that then anyone can say that Jesus was the Savior for His time, and we have different Messiahs today.
BTW - Women submitting to their husbands is written in the NT.
Well Paul also wrote that women should have their heads covered. This is in the same letter that Paul wrote to submit to husbands. What happened to this timeless rule?
You should use the whole truth of the verse and not partial
Paul wrote that they should have their heads covered when praying or prophesying.
Again....what does that have to do with anything?
Gays are now allowed in 'some' denominations....does that make it right?
God makes the customs/traditions/laws/regulations for us.
It's not the other way around.
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Well Paul also wrote that women should have their heads covered. This is in the same letter that Paul wrote to submit to husbands. What happened to this timeless rule?
Again what does that have to do with Christianity or Judaism?
Do you see that in the bible where we should burn people at the stake to relieve pain women felt during childbirth?
Also, Lev,Numbers, and Deut are laws that were given to the Jewish people. Most of these laws do not apply to Gentiles as it is stated in the New Testament
Midwives were burned at the stake in the 15 century because of the 3rd chapter in Genesis.
Show me where in the bible it is stated that, "Most of these laws do not apply to Gentiles as it is stated in the New Testament[".
You have not proven where it states it does not apply to today.
Your logic is that Society dictates morality and the laws of God
My logic is that the Word of God dictates morality and the laws of God
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Your logic cannot be followed. It makes no sense at all.
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