To those against the Catholic faith. (God, Christians, repentance, heaven)

[renriq02]

im not sure why you are 'trying' to figure me out.

if i was 'hiding' then i wouldn't have 'chanukah' on my moniker, and neither would i be on this forum debating many of the topics.

resident = young paduan. You have a lot to learn.

Only a person who is losing debate will divert the attention away from the facts/topics.

Most people start to cut down the messenger because they can't disprove the message.

Originally Posted by robertpolyglot

Great actor....you missed your calling, renriq....you make a great dogmatic "fundie" Bible quoter. The Charlotte NC threw me off...thinking you might have been sucked into the "past tense" local flavor by osmosis.

Now, it makes sense: NY + Miami + mortage lender + the word "chanukah" in your current status. How can I have missed that? And why did you hide your faith? I'm proud of mine.

[AaronK]

Your message has been regurgitated and repeated, and addressed far too often. Perhaps we are just tired of it. I will no longer be debating with you unless you bring something new to the table. The issue of idol worship has been addressed. Anything else you want to discuss? Eucharist? Anything? I'll be happy to address you.

[Richio]

Originally Posted by renriq02

quit trying to pervert what i wrote

have you heard of the people that will be raptured when Jesus comes back? It says they will rise from grave. Mary is still in her grave waiting for the coming of Jesus or are you telling me catholics dont believe in the Rapture?

please share the catholic website...there are many, and i want to make sure we're on the same page.

The pre-trib rapture does not a Protestant make.

Catholics believe in the resurrection of the body.

This "rapture" only applies to those who manage survive to the point in time when the resurrection occurs.

we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord,
will not precede those who have fallen asleep.

OK. I'm not really a "Protestant".
Merely a Christian.

[robertpolyglot]

Originally Posted by renriq02

im not sure why you are 'trying' to figure me out.

if i was 'hiding' then i wouldn't have 'chanukah' on my moniker, and neither would i be on this forum debating many of the topics.

resident = young paduan. You have a lot to learn.

Only a person who is losing debate will divert the attention away from the facts/topics.

Most people start to cut down the messenger because they can't disprove the message.

I wouldn't assume that someone who posted "Mazel tov" or "(the term for 'to life')" or "Shalom" would be Jewish. Some people who enjoy languages like the clever message those words imply and might use them. Saying "sayonara" or "ser gut" doesn't make one Japanese or German, respectively.

There is no debate. It would be interesting to see why you have such animosity toward the content of our faith. I have no issue with Judaism, as it was the springboard for our faith. However, I don't have the time to learn its content, as I will certainly never convert to it, so I will certainly never say anything pejorative about the content of your faith. The are other threads which discuss the general cliquishness and nepotism practiced by adherents to your faith, but that doesn't involve the content of your faith, but does involve collective and observable norms and behavior. So perhaps you should tell us what set you off against Catholicism and why not Christianity in general. Generally speaking, since you are a Jew, your dislike of Catholics should include the dislike of any Christian religion, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

[Okiegirlfriend]

renqui wrote, "quit trying to pervert what i wrote."

Isn't that what you have been doing to us??????????

[Okiegirlfriend]

Catholics find no solid scriptural evidence that Jesus will come two or three more times. We think Scripture is clear that He will only come one more time. Catholics do not see any Biblical evidence as to why Christians should be "spared" the tribulation of the evil one. The Catholic Church feels that all Biblical evidence points to the contrary - that Christians will undergo great persecutions and tribulation. Catholics believe that history bears witness that the Church thrives under persecution.

Are Catholics into the Rapture

[renriq02]

i dont believe in pretrib

i believe the church will go through persecution before the 2nd coming

i dont know any Christians who believe Jesus is coming back 2 more times.

Originally Posted by Okiegirlfriend

Catholics find no solid scriptural evidence that Jesus will come two or three more times. We think Scripture is clear that He will only come one more time. Catholics do not see any Biblical evidence as to why Christians should be "spared" the tribulation of the evil one. The Catholic Church feels that all Biblical evidence points to the contrary - that Christians will undergo great persecutions and tribulation. Catholics believe that history bears witness that the Church thrives under persecution.

Are Catholics into the Rapture

[Richio]

Originally Posted by renriq02

i dont believe in pretrib

i believe the church will go through persecution before the 2nd coming

i dont know any Christians who believe Jesus is coming back 2 more times.

My bad.
Most people who speak of the rapture mean a pre-trib rapture.

For those who do believe that, Jesus would have to make a secret appearance to take them away - to come back a 2nd Second time when every eye shall behold Him.
But this is neither here nor there concerning the OP.

I just wanted to say that Catholics do believe in "the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come."

[renriq02]

i agree.

most people dont understand that Jesus will need to come back twice in order to complete it.

Originally Posted by Richio

My bad.
Most people who speak of the rapture mean a pre-trib rapture.

For those who do believe that, Jesus would have to make a secret appearance to take them away - to come back a 2nd Second time when every eye shall behold Him.
But this is neither here nor there concerning the OP.

I just wanted to say that Catholics do believe in "the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come."

[weatherologist]

I took the following quotes from this thread: Not all Christians are going to Heaven

Originally Posted by weatherologist

WOW. I must say that I am shocked by your need to turn this around on GrannyNancy. You have stated or at the very least inferred that infant baptism is invalid. I assume that you are unable to find biblical reference that supports that infant baptism is invalid.

Also, just a personal curiosity, are you a practicing Jew?

Originally Posted by renriq02

1. I'm not the one who needs to prove that it is valid. You and Granny have yet to prove that it IS valid. Are you saying now that since it's NOT in the bible that it makes it valid now?

2. This thread isn't about me.

And then from this thread:

Originally Posted by renriq02

that's why i laughed. i'm not worried that you called me a pig...kind of ironic since I'm Jewish.

I'll use CCC, and bring up the points later today.

BTW the speck/log would apply to you since you're the one calling me a pig....

Why the sudden change of heart, renriq? I don't believe THIS thread was ever about YOU either?

Personally, and this is just my humble opinion, I think that you try really hard to make others look or feel, hmmm....stupid, ignorant?...what's the word I'm looking for? You are constantly twisting other people's words. I was just reading through the "not all Christians going to heaven" thread and it was amazing who all you would attack. You think very highly of yourself. Good on you.

Oh, I also understand that I called you a pig. I'm afraid that it was an understatement, but I was trying to be kind. But the speck/log comment was going back well before that statement was made.