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Old 12-31-2008, 10:44 AM
 
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Jeremiah 29
10 For thus says the LORD: After seventy years are completed at Babylon, I will visit you and perform My good word toward you, and cause you to return to this place.


Did God show up Jerusalem? Lets see how well literalism holds up.
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:52 AM
 
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Did God show up Jerusalem? Lets see how well literalism holds up.
Can you measure the immeasurable?

This is the same playing field as the upper room, or the rapture, etc. Is God next to you now? How do you quantify the unseen?
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:12 PM
 
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Jeremiah 29
10 For thus says the LORD: After seventy years are completed at Babylon, I will visit you and perform My good word toward you, and cause you to return to this place.


Did God show up Jerusalem? Lets see how well literalism holds up.


As a people, the Jews were to prepare for bondage in Babylon, they would not return to the promised land until God was ready to return them. This is a classic lesson in God's timing. God's timing is not our own.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:37 PM
 
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What about here?


2 Thessalonians 2
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

or here?

Revelation 2
15 Thus you also have those who hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.[a] 16 Repent, or else I will come to you quickly and will fight against them with the sword of My mouth.

Lets look at Jeremiah 29 again:
10 For thus says the LORD: After seventy years are completed at Babylon, I will visit you and perform My good word toward you, and cause you to return to this place.


Which of these is spiritual and which of these is a physical bodily appearance? What is the reasoning?
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:54 PM
 
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Understand this, we can go forever and a day with different scripture dictating as much. The bible can be read literally, I will admit some passages can be very difficult (In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth- God spoke the word into existence) it will appear coherent but there are figures of speech in the bible. If I say it is raining cats and dogs outside, would you think that cats and dogs were falling out of the sky literally? or that it is a figure of speech of raining heavily, so it is with the bible. If you want to see nonsesne when reading the bible then that is a nobrainer but the bible is very clear in many passages from the ten commandments to the sermon on the mount.
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Old 12-31-2008, 02:06 PM
 
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Understand this, we can go forever and a day with different scripture dictating as much. The bible can be read literally, I will admit some passages can be very difficult (In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth- God spoke the word into existence) it will appear coherent but there are figures of speech in the bible. If I say it is raining cats and dogs outside, would you think that cats and dogs were falling out of the sky literally? or that it is a figure of speech of raining heavily, so it is with the bible. If you want to see nonsesne when reading the bible then that is a nobrainer but the bible is very clear in many passages from the ten commandments to the sermon on the mount.
Hi Fundamentalist,

I agree but I consistently regard them as spiritual visitations while others inconsistently choose which they like.
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Old 12-31-2008, 02:17 PM
 
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Hi Fundamentalist,

I agree but I consistently regard them as spiritual visitations while others inconsistently choose which they like.
I see the Bible as spiritual, because God is spirit.
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