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Old 01-09-2009, 08:26 AM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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In my short period of time on this board it seems as though if you don't agree or believe the same as Marian then your not right. Now I don't really care if others think im right or wrong as long as the Lord knows whats in my heart that is all that matters to me.
If what is "in my heart" is contrary to what is in the word of God, I hope someone can show me where (by the word of God) that I am wrong. If I express personal opinions I can very well be wrong. If I quote a scripture that very plainly teaches something, it is the scriptures that you are questioning, not me.

BTW , I think your post citing my name borders on an infringement on the forum rules???
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Old 01-09-2009, 08:49 AM
 
Location: In God's country
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Is this what God wants of us? I very seldom post anymore because of this, and from what i understand "deerdog" is fairly new. Isnt that ashame that someone comes on here wanting to "fellowship" and "discuss" not bicker and argue wether they are on the border of forum rules, or if they are "right" in your beliefs. Anyone can quote scriptures, there are alot of people who twist the scriptures into what they want them to say.
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Old 01-09-2009, 08:58 AM
 
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Is this what God wants of us? I very seldom post anymore because of this, and from what i understand "deerdog" is fairly new. Isnt that ashame that someone comes on here wanting to "fellowship" and "discuss" not bicker and argue wether they are on the border of forum rules, or if they are "right" in your beliefs. Anyone can quote scriptures, there are alot of people who twist the scriptures into what they want them to say.

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Old 01-09-2009, 01:49 PM
 
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If what is "in my heart" is contrary to what is in the word of God, I hope someone can show me where (by the word of God) that I am wrong. If I express personal opinions I can very well be wrong. If I quote a scripture that very plainly teaches something, it is the scriptures that you are questioning, not me.
What you seem unable to accept is that reading and comprehension are TWO different things. Your assumption seems to be that the way you read and comprehend the scriptures is infallible and inerrant . . . sorry . . . not from what I've seen.
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Old 01-09-2009, 03:27 PM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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What you seem unable to accept is that reading and comprehension are TWO different things. Your assumption seems to be that the way you read and comprehend the scriptures is infallible and inerrant . . . sorry . . . not from what I've seen.

If I say: If you stand in front of an oncoming train and it hits/runs over you, you are going to die. If you read that, can you comprehend something else in that?
If I say: If an hydrogen bomb falls on a large city and explodes, thousands of people in that city will die. Can you comprehend that differently than others will?
Why are the scriptures differant? Things that are plainly said cannot be misread, or miscomprehended. Thay can be rejected....that is something that you seem unable to accept.

There are bound to be better examples than that, but I think you can get the point.
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Old 01-09-2009, 04:03 PM
 
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There are bound to be better examples than that, but I think you can get the point.
I suggest you Google the terms hermeneutics, exegesis and eisegesis and read a little about them. Then we can talk about how to read and comprehend Scripture.
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Old 01-09-2009, 06:05 PM
 
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Baptism is an outward showing of dieing as the sinner and coming to life as a Child of God. Here is when the Remission of sins take place according to Jesus.

"And He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is My blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." (Matthew 26:27-28 KJV)

"To Him give all the prophets witness, that through His Name whosoever believeth in Him shall receive remission of sins." (Acts 10:43 KJV)

This seems pretty straightforward that its by the believing, faith, grace and the Shedding of the Blood upon that Old Rugged Cross upon Calvary by the Messiah that we are saved and not by the water.
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Old 01-09-2009, 06:36 PM
 
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Baptism is an outward showing of dieing as the sinner and coming to life as a Child of God. Here is when the Remission of sins take place according to Jesus.

"And He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is My blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." (Matthew 26:27-28 KJV)

"To Him give all the prophets witness, that through His Name whosoever believeth in Him shall receive remission of sins." (Acts 10:43 KJV)

This seems pretty straightforward that its by the believing, faith, grace and the Shedding of the Blood upon that Old Rugged Cross upon Calvary by the Messiah that we are saved and not by the water.
And where do you believe that we come into contact with His blood?
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Old 01-09-2009, 06:47 PM
 
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And where do you believe that we come into contact with His blood?
We dont contact his blood in a physical way, the only way to contact it is in a Spiritual way. Due to his shedding of the blood we are sanctified, justified, and made righteous. We are redeemed, free from sin, made holy, and purified from sin.
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Old 01-10-2009, 07:16 AM
 
Location: In God's country
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Romans 6:4
"When we were baptized, we were buried with Christ and shared his death. So, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the wonderful power of the Father, we also can live a new life"

I would like to just throw this in there just so all of us can remember this....

Romans 14:1
"Accept into your group someone who is weak in faith, and do not argue about opinions."
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