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Old 01-10-2009, 06:15 PM
 
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i am a christian. When isreal comes to peace the world will come to the end what's your thoughts? it's all in Revelation!!!
Respectfully,iColt1, but it is not all in the Revelation.

The first and last chapters of the book of Revelation speak of the things which John was to be shown which were in his day to "shortly" take place because the time was then "near." It was said to be near in John's day because the visions contained in the book were to happen "shortly!"

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Old 01-17-2009, 09:17 PM
 
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"Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy." (1 Peter 1:16)

"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matthew 5:48)

I'm giving you the Word of God. You must be holy, and there is no sin in holiness.

(Ephesians 4:24) "And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness."

How can anyone possibly dispute God's Word?
How about rightly dividing it?

I Peter 1:16 "Because it is written, "Be ye holy; for I am holy." "
This isn't hard to understand, you want a guide for your life, the Jesus is telling you to use His life for that guide. "Holy" in the Greek text is "Hagios", and it means without blame. When we live our lives according to His laws and commandments, there is no blame that can come to us, however when we fall short of that standard, then we ask the Father to forgive us, in Jesus name. That is the freedom that we have in Christ. We don't have to carry the burdens of sin from day to day, for when they are repented, God takes them from us, and it is as if we never committed them.

Matthew 5:48 "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father Which is in heaven is perfect."
When we love those that are of our family, and close to us, Jesus is saying that is what the world does, that is what the world expects of every one. However Jesus is telling us that He expects much more that what the world would give. "Perfect" in the Strong's Greek dictionary is # 5048, "Telioo", and means consecrated, matured and fulfilled (in character)"; and that is how Jesus expects His elect to act.

(Ephesians 4:24) "And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness."
The "new man" that we are to put on, or become is the new nature of our soul and spirit. This "new nature" of our soul is to take control over out whole being, soul and spirit; as well as our physical body.
This command by Paul to the Christian, is given after the Christian has repented, and is saved; Thus in the Greek text, "after God is created", should read, "because God was being formed [our new nature] in righteousness and true holiness". We don't become righteous and holy, but imitate that which Jesus Christ is. Our perfection before God is not because of us, but by what Jesus Christ did.
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:12 PM
 
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The Bride of Christ, not all Christians, will go up in the Rapture just before Israel makes the 7 year pact with the anti-christ; this will be the 7-year tribulation period, Israel's 70th week of punishment. The signs are all around us, and God's judgments are increasing upon the earth. However, the Holy Spirit is moving like never before to get as many as possible ready for the Rapture. Are you a wise virgin or foolish? Remember, you must be born-again (living free from all sin) to even be considered a virgin.
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:25 AM
 
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The Bride of Christ, not all Christians, will go up in the Rapture just before Israel makes the 7 year pact with the anti-christ; this will be the 7-year tribulation period, Israel's 70th week of punishment. The signs are all around us, and God's judgments are increasing upon the earth. However, the Holy Spirit is moving like never before to get as many as possible ready for the Rapture. Are you a wise virgin or foolish? Remember, you must be born-again (living free from all sin) to even be considered a virgin.
scgraham...please post Scripture that shows/proves being 'born again (BTW "again'means "from above") that states being "born from above" means one 'is' and or will remain free from sin. Thanks

Apparently you did not understand my remarks. I wanted you to show Scripture in regards to this remark you made: you must be born-again (living free from all sin).
Let me put it another way....show me Scripture that says, " being born again makes us free from sin.

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Old 01-18-2009, 09:50 AM
 
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"For YOU know this first, that in the last days there will come ridiculers, with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires, and saying "where is this promised presence of his? Why from the day our forefathers fell asleep (in death), all things are continuing exactly as from creation's beginning."
2 PETER 3:3-4

"You, therefore, beloved ones, having this advanced knowledge, be on YOUR guard that YOU may not be led away with them in error of your law-defying people and fall from YOUR own steadfastness. No, but go on growing in the undeserved kindness and knowledge of our LORD and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. To HIM be the glory both now and to the day of eternity." 2 PETER 3:17-18

These are the last days!!!!!
Many feel somewhat lost when we look at the world scene.Have you watched the news and wondered what is this world coming to???? Realities such as warfare, disease, and crime leave people wondering about what the future holds. Government leaders offer little hope.However, a reliable explanation of these distressing days is available from God in his Word. The Bible reliably helps us see where we are in the stream of time. It shows us we are in the last days of the present system of things 2 TIM 3:1

Three days before Jesus died, his disciples asked him: What will be the signs of your presence and the conclusion of the system of things? MATT 24:3 In reply, Jesus told of specific world events and situations that would clearly show that this ungodly system has entered it's last days. Jesus told his disciples that only God knew exactly when the end of this system of things would come. Jesus did foretell things that would take place on earth just before the Kingdom of God would bring true peace and security yo mankind. What Jesus foretold is now taking place!

Unprecedented Warfare-Nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom --MATT 24:7 REV 6:4

Famine--MATT 24:7 REV 6:5,6,8

Pestilences--LUKE 21:11 REV 6:8

Increasing Lawlessness-- MATT 24:12

Ruining of the Earth--REV 11:18

Earthquakes--MATT 24:7

Critical Times Hard to Deal With((PERILOUS times will come for mankind))--2 TIM 3:1

Inordinate Love of Money--2 TIM 3:2

Disobedience to Parents --2 TIM 3:2

A Lack of Natural Affection--2 TIM 3:3

Loving PLEASURES Rather than God --2 TIM 3:4

A Lack of Self-Control--2 TIM 3:3

Without Love of Goodness-- TIM 3:3

Taking no note of Impending Danger--MATT 24:39

Ridiculers Reject Proof of the Last Days-- 2 PETER 3:3,4

Global Preaching of God's Kingdom--MATT 24:14 MATT 24:3,14

True Christians would be Objests of Hatred by all people--LUKE 21:17

Having a form of Godly Devotion but Proving False to it's Power--2 TIM 3:5

There will be a Mixture of Belivers and False belivers within the Church Body--MATT 13:24-30

There will be SCOFFERS--2 PETER 3:3-4

HUMANITYwill be able to cross the globe rapidly and science will be advancing--DANIEL 12:4

Mankind will deny God once flooded the earth--2 PETER 3:5-6

The earth will be swimming in a sea of violence--LUKE 17:26

There will be warfare all over the globe--MARK 13:8

False Christs's and false prophets will be very effective in the art of deception--MATT 24:24

Sexual Immorality will abound--JUDE 1:8

Idolatry will be common--REV 9:20

Many Christians and church doctrines will depart from the faith--1 TIM 4:1

Homosexuality will be FLAUNTED --LEVITICUS 20:13

Many will rejoice in their UNRIGHTEOUSNESS--2 THESSALONIANS 2:12


These are just a few of the prophecies that are occurring. After the good news is preached to God's satisfaction, the end is certain to come --MATT 24:14

I am not fearful-I am not afraid- I do not sit and dwell on this-I don't worry- I welcome Jesus return- I try to inform and plant the seed. That is ALL i can do. Freewill was given to us all-it is now up to us as to how to use it.
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Old 01-20-2009, 12:34 AM
 
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To everyone: Be aware that Razzel is quoting from the inaccurate, poorly translated New World Translation of the Christian Scriptures. It is a Jehovah's Witness "translation."

Be aware also that the Jesus Razzel is waiting for is not the Jesus of the Bible.

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Old 01-20-2009, 01:37 AM
 
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To everyone: Be aware that Razzel is quoting from the inaccurate, poorly translated New World Translation of the Christian Scriptures. It is a Jehovah's Witness "translation."

Be aware also that the Jesus Razzel is waiting for is not the Jesus of the Bible.

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My My, don't you just hate it when someone else's slant of end of days doom and gloom overshadow's you version of end of days doom and gloom ???
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Old 01-20-2009, 09:34 AM
 
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My My, don't you just hate it when someone else's slant of end of days doom and gloom overshadow's you version of end of days doom and gloom ???
Scripture? Are you going to simply make such remarks without any specific accusation? I have never presented MY version of the "end of days" but I have always attempted to present an exegetical approach to passages dealing with the "time of the end."

I wish we could actually study the Bible!

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Old 01-20-2009, 02:02 PM
 
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Scripture? Are you going to simply make such remarks without any specific accusation? I have never presented MY version of the "end of days" but I have always attempted to present an exegetical approach to passages dealing with the "time of the end."

I wish we could actually study the Bible!

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"exegetical" ???

Ooooooo Don't we just get the shivers when he talks like that ???

Have fun with your thread mate !!!
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Old 01-20-2009, 02:32 PM
 
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"exegetical" ???

Ooooooo Don't we just get the shivers when he talks like that ???

Have fun with your thread mate !!!
LOL I thought I was in the divorce thread. But that's funny, BP.
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