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Old 01-16-2009, 03:21 PM
 
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Far right/Bible literalist/fundamentalist churchs preach fear - and having this made up "gay agenda" is just another scare tactic they use to fire up their followers. "Oooo... if you don't show up every Sunday and do as we say, the homosexuals are going force schools to teach your 5 year old how to have anal sex. They're filthy, sex crazed, disease-ridden monsters ready to pounce on your little boys and turn them gay. Let's all work together and ammend our state constitution to put them all in concentration camps and make Jesus happy! - and put more money in the plate while you're at it!"

My church preaches love. It's a much more pleasant way to live.
Interesting but wrong.....

(John 3:20–21)

20 “For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
21 “But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.”

There will come a time when the world will kill Christians, you are proving it because of your hatred of the truth. Since we represent the truth, you will certainly hate us. You keep talking about hate because you yourself hate. Even Martin Luther King Jr. told us not to hate our enemies because Jesus didn't and they were beaten, spat on, lynched etc.... what have you and your fellow gays gone through for the "plight" of the gay community besides a bruised ego?

(Acts 9:16)
"for I will show him how many things he must suffer for my name's sake."

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Old 01-16-2009, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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No, I'm skurrda snakes. I've never met a single gay (or straight) person who was into bestiality. I'd suggest that "freedom" produce just one person who wants to be able to marry an animal and then we'll get back to this stupid argument.
CAUTION!
You asked for it....
Man marries horse? Video
People marry animals trying to find happiness - Pravda.Ru

Bestiality 'OK if animal approves' // Current

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 01-16-2009, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Far right/Bible literalist/fundamentalist churchs preach fear - and having this made up "gay agenda" is just another scare tactic they use to fire up their followers. "Oooo... if you don't show up every Sunday and do as we say, the homosexuals are going force schools to teach your 5 year old how to have anal sex. They're filthy, sex crazed, disease-ridden monsters ready to pounce on your little boys and turn them gay. Let's all work together and ammend our state constitution to put them all in concentration camps and make Jesus happy! - and put more money in the plate while you're at it!"

My church preaches love. It's a much more pleasant way to live.
I'm not a member of any church, and i don't go to an organized church.
If i did and they taught that gays should be harmed, i would speak up and protect them if the occasion presented itself.

I do believe that they need mental and spiritual help, but that is really up to them to seek it out.

You know my disagreement is in the position that you take, believing that its not a sin, and that God accepts it as a righteous act and choice.

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 01-16-2009, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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Yup.. from what I've read.. which by the way is in the link I posted. Feel free to view or start a new thread on it.

Fundy.. any scripture you put out there with regards to homosexuality being a sin.. I can counter. Every.. single.. one...

So.. if you'd like.. start a new thread on the subject.. and I'll dig everything up again and counter everything you put out there.

You and I will argue back and forth about context and interpretation.. you'll say I'm twisting scripture since that is your thing to do..

then.. we'll just be back at the same point we were before.

But.. I do love to argue fundy.. I do love it. Love it love it love it.. and if thats a road you'd like to go down.. by all means start the thread. I do have company in town this weekend.. so if I won't be of much help right away but if its something you are honestly interested in I'm happy to oblige to a fun new homosexuality thread.. lord knows THAT has never been talked about here.

What astonishes me most is you think I'm just ignoring something. Like I'm that stupid. Like I wouldn't do my own independent research on the subject.. Like I would just take the word of some redneck baptist preacher who don't know nothing more than his daddy told him while growing up in bucksnort mississippi.. please. Don't assume I haven't gone out and done my own research on it...

because in the end.. and I say this as heartfelt as possible. If God created homosexuals and at the same time tells them "you can't be in love".. then I'd have to walk away from my faith. Its as simple as that..

I'll like to see you argue your way out of HELL!! Walk away from your faith? Or walk towards it?
 
Old 01-16-2009, 07:11 PM
 
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I'll like to see you argue your way out of HELL!! Walk away from your faith? Or walk towards it?
LOL. Why do people have to justify their sins. I have posted this many times before and maybe I should start a new thread for Betsey Lane. The bible is VERY clear--ANY SEX OUTSIDE OF A HETEROSEXUAL MARRIAGE IS FORNICATION OR ADULTERY. NO need to argue!
 
Old 01-16-2009, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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LOL. Why do people have to justify their sins. I have posted this many times before and maybe I should start a new thread for Betsey Lane. The bible is VERY clear--ANY SEX OUTSIDE OF A HETEROSEXUAL MARRIAGE IS FORNICATION OR ADULTERY. NO need to argue!
I don't feel like arguing either. As long as you're clear on what the bible has to say, I'm good, if you're good.

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Old 01-16-2009, 07:26 PM
 
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LOL. Why do people have to justify their sins. I have posted this many times before and maybe I should start a new thread for Betsey Lane. The bible is VERY clear--ANY SEX OUTSIDE OF A HETEROSEXUAL MARRIAGE IS FORNICATION OR ADULTERY. NO need to argue!


I don't feel like arguing either. As long as you're clear on what the bible has to say, I'm good, if you're good.
God's Word clearly teaches that ALL SCRIPTURE IS GIVING BY INSPIRATION OF GOD AND IS PROFITABLE FOR DOCTRINE, FOR REPROOF, FOR CORRECTION, FOR INSTRUCTION IN RIGHTEOUSNESS. 2Timothy 3:16.

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Old 01-16-2009, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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God's Word clearly teaches that ALL SCRIPTURE IS GIVING BY INSPIRATION OF GOD AND IS PROFITABLE FOR DOCTRINE, FOR REPROOF, FOR CORRECTION, FOR INSTRUCTION IN RIGHTEOUSNESS. 2Timothy 3:16.
Maybe Obamanation missed that part.

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 01-16-2009, 07:51 PM
 
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Maybe Obamanation missed that part.

godspeed,

freedom
Amen Freedom. It seems as if he's trying to be ALL inclusive for the sake of being politically correct, setting aside his own beliefs about gay bishops.
 
Old 01-16-2009, 10:16 PM
 
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1 Corinthians 6:8-10
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.


The Bible isn't homophobic, it is absolute.
You do realise that the word homosexual was only brought into use in many English translations of the Bible in the 20th century? Before that, it used to be translated as "masturbators".

You are right, the Bible is not homophobic because there is nothing about homosexuality or sexual orientation in the Bible - a concept that was not recognised at the time the texts were first written.

How can the Bible be absolute if translators can change the meanings of the original Hebrew and Greek words and verses to suit their own biases or the biases of the church who commissioned them?
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