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Old 01-18-2009, 07:59 PM
 
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OK I havent read the entire thread, but Obama will be sworn in with his hand on Lincolns Bible.
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:16 PM
 
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OK I havent read the entire thread, but Obama will be sworn in with his hand on Lincolns Bible.
Read the OP! This is not about the liberal. This has nothing to do with him.
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:35 PM
 
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I'm sorry, Salt . . . there is so much reticence among some here that I assume too much. Yes they were . . . because those on the Left DID NOT DO them . . . those on the Right DID.
It’s quite all right; I fully understand how difficult it is to correctly interrupt the intentions of a person based on a post on a forum.

I think that I understand now. I believe that those on the left actually did do “good works” not out of faith in Christ but rather for self recognition, self serving purposes. The Bible is full of instances, examples of and warnings regarding how those in this mind set will be judged. Matthew 7: 21-23 is only one of several examples of this.
Thanks for your clarification!
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:19 PM
 
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Default Obama walks the walk?

In reading through some of the posts I find myself shaking my head. One of my biggest head shakers is "Bush talks" but Obama "walks the walk" of a Christian? Obama promised (he said it would be one of the first things he will do) to implement the freedom of choice act thereby re-establishing the gruesome act of partial birth abortion? Any one who can do this is no Christian. His Kool-Aid drinking followers can say this about him...he is loyal. Loyal to Planned Parenthood for giving him all of that blood soaked money from killing the weakest among us.
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:29 PM
 
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I think that I understand now. I believe that those on the left actually did do “good works” not out of faith in Christ but rather for self recognition, self serving purposes. The Bible is full of instances, examples of and warnings regarding how those in this mind set will be judged. Matthew 7: 21-23 is only one of several examples of this.
Thanks for your clarification!
The passage expressly said they did NOT . . . whereas the ones on the right DID. It is unambiguous. Matthew 7:21-23 (King James Version)

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Sorry but I read these verses very differently from you, Salt. It is those who believe that professing belief in Jesus and having faith is what is needed are more apt to fit the above verses . . . as opposed to those on the right that actually DID those works "even to the least" as God would have us DO.
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:32 PM
 
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The passage expressly said they did NOT . . . whereas the ones on the right DID. It is unambiguous. Matthew 7:21-23 (King James Version)

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Sorry but I read these verses very differently from you, Salt. It is those who believe that professing belief in Jesus and having faith is what is needed are more apt to fit the above verses . . . as opposed to those on the right that actually DID those works "even to the least" as God would have us DO.
May I ask what authority? and if you say the Holy Spirit, then what you are saying, is anybody can interpret those verses differently and all interpretations would be right? Is that what you are saying?
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:34 PM
 
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In reading through some of the posts I find myself shaking my head. One of my biggest head shakers is "Bush talks" but Obama "walks the walk" of a Christian? Obama promised (he said it would be one of the first things he will do) to implement the freedom of choice act thereby re-establishing the gruesome act of partial birth abortion? Any one who can do this is no Christian. His Kool-Aid drinking followers can say this about him...he is loyal. Loyal to Planned Parenthood for giving him all of that blood soaked money from killing the weakest among us.
I would love to hear Christians who voted for Obama explain themselves after he signs FOCA
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:40 PM
 
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May I ask what authority? and if you say the Holy Spirit, then what you are saying is anybody can interpret those verses differently and all interpretations would be right? Is that what you are saying?
I am saying that the holy spirit makes those verses clear to me . . . not at all ambiguous. God is interested in what we actually think and feel and do . . . not what we profess to believe and proclaim to the world in Jesus' NAME. I suspect there are many preachers who fit that second group who might be in for a rude shock upon their death. Just saying.
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:41 PM
 
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Let's get back to the original premise of the thread which seems to be the man Barack Obama chose to give the prayer at his inauguration.

He has said...

"While that is a holy and sacred text to me, it is not for many Americans," Robinson said. "I will be careful not to be especially Christian in my prayer. This is a prayer for the whole nation."

Well, what does he mean by "especially Christian"?

If it means he will not speak from the perspective of the modern psuedo-Christian church which is a creation of the state, then I applaud him.

If, however, he means he will not openly profess the faith of Christ Jesus to the nation, then he is denying Christ and the faith to which he claims he adheres to.

Well, which one is it?

Let's see if we can determine this by his actions. When he speaks, he will reveal to all who he is and what he stands for.
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:43 PM
 
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I am saying that the holy spirit makes those verses clear to me . . . not at all ambiguous. God is interested in what we actually think and feel and do . . . not what we profess to believe and proclaim to the world in Jesus' NAME. I suspect there are many preachers who fit that second group who might be in for a rude shock upon their death. Just saying.
Yes they are the ones who don't preach the correct gospel, don't talk about sin, repentance and faith. Instead they preach prosperity and self help.

Now back to the Holy Spirit. How can the Holy Spirit give you one interpretation and someone a totally different one, then you 15 people with 15 different interpretations, who's right?
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