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Old 01-19-2009, 07:41 PM
 
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Perhaps it means that with love in one's heart, following God's will is instinctual. One no longer needs a bunch of instructions because doing the right thing comes naturally.
Ding! Ding! Ding! Amen.
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:54 PM
 
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Perhaps it means that with love in one's heart, following God's will is instinctual. One no longer needs a bunch of instructions because doing the right thing comes naturally.
Then why do I struggle with sin if it comes naturally?
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:37 PM
 
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Then why do I struggle with sin if it comes naturally?
Why ask this question on this forum? The answer is quite obvious, though sometimes blinding.
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Pikeville, Ky.
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If I know God and have a personal relationship and dialog with Him through prayer, then His word is written in my heart and his word is love. As one mature in the ways of Christ there is no need for me to constantly question everything I do by what is written in the bible which I now use for words of wisdom, comfort and enlightenlightment, and for helping others who are new to Him..
His laws are writen within me because I have enough love that I follow the example of Christ without having to look it up...Chris is now an established part of my everything...
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Old 01-20-2009, 06:22 AM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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People are condemned not for what they don't know, but for what they do with what they do know.Those who know God's written Word and His law will be judged by them. Those who have never seen a Bible still know right from wrong, and they will be judged because they violated those standards that their own consciences dictated. God's law is written within them.

I have a problem with your first sentence in light of 2nd Timothy 1:8...taking vengeance on those who know not God, and obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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Old 01-20-2009, 06:48 AM
 
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Why ask this question on this forum? The answer is quite obvious, though sometimes blinding.
I know the answer but this person said, following God's will is instinctual. I beg to differ, since my instinct is to sin.
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:42 AM
 
Location: God's Country
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I have a problem with your first sentence in light of 2nd Timothy 1:8...taking vengeance on those who know not God, and obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
I have no idea what you are talking about, 2 Timothy 1:8 doesn't say anything about vengeance on those who don't know God.
2 Timothy 1:8 "So you must never be ashamed to tell others about our Lord. And don't be ashamed of me either, even though I'm in prison for Christ. With the strength God gives you, be ready to suffer with me for the proclamation of the Good News".
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Old 01-20-2009, 12:05 PM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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I have no idea what you are talking about, 2 Timothy 1:8 doesn't say anything about vengeance on those who don't know God.
2 Timothy 1:8 "So you must never be ashamed to tell others about our Lord. And don't be ashamed of me either, even though I'm in prison for Christ. With the strength God gives you, be ready to suffer with me for the proclamation of the Good News".

OOps, that should have been Thess. 1:8 !!!! I shouldn't try to watch the TV account of today's historical events, and do this at the same time!

I am sorry that you did not realize that I had the wrong book!
I am also surprised that you do not know that scripture.
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Old 01-20-2009, 03:19 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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OOps, that should have been Thess. 1:8 !!!! I shouldn't try to watch the TV account of today's historical events, and do this at the same time!

I am sorry that you did not realize that I had the wrong book!
I am also surprised that you do not know that scripture.
Well of course I know the verse, 1 Thess 1:8 is talking when Jesus returns and judges people fairly who have rejected Him. Those who have rejected Him, don't know Him, only Christians know Him.
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:49 PM
 
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Well of course I know the verse, 1 Thess 1:8 is talking when Jesus returns and judges people fairly who have rejected Him. Those who have rejected Him, don't know Him, only Christians know Him.
It is 2Thessalonians 1:7-8 that provides the context . . . and it says only that those who do not know God and obey the gospels (translation= think, feel and act like Jesus with love to all). We are talking about some evil souls that will encounter negative consequences.
2 Thessalonians 1:7-8 (King James Version)

7And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

8In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
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