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Old 01-20-2009, 06:49 AM
 
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If anyone loves mother, father, sister , brother, son, or daughter, more than Me, He is not worthty of me.

The church is the body of Christ. The body is expected to come together, in fellowship with one another, and with God.
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Old 01-20-2009, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Pikeville, Ky.
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The church is not ordered to meet in a building..it is where 2 or 3 are gathered in my name..How do we know if the Thirstys don't set aside some time together in the Lord? Is it our business to question it? They are christians...
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Old 01-20-2009, 06:55 AM
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Donald G. Miller states: “No particular structure of church life is divinely ordained.”

Any form … which the Holy Spirit can inhabit and to which He may impart the life of Christ, must be accepted as valid for the church. As all forms of life adapt themselves to their environment, so does the Life of Christ by His Spirit in the church.

The Church is a living organism not an organization... so we are exhorted to come together as a body.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:02 AM
 
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The church is not ordered to meet in a building..it is where 2 or 3 are gathered in my name..How do we know if the Thirstys don't set aside some time together in the Lord? Is it our business to question it? They are christians...
The scripture about two or three coming together is speaking about discipline, not about the assembly of the saints.
Matthew 18:15 through 20. 20 is the only verse in that discourse by Jesus that is quoted, unfortunately.
It is one of the most misused verses in the bible!
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:08 AM
 
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The church is not ordered to meet in a building..it is where 2 or 3 are gathered in my name..How do we know if the Thirstys don't set aside some time together in the Lord? Is it our business to question it? They are christians...

Only Jesus can judge who is a Christian and who is not.
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Pikeville, Ky.
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Only Jesus can judge who is a Christian and who is not.
Sandgirl, you seem to be misundrstanding every post of mine this morning..I was not making a judgement on the Thirstys..I was just saying they are christian, the same way I would say you are christan, my friend, because you , me, they, believe in Christ and strive to follow his teachings..I hope this explains
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:36 AM
 
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Sandgirl, you seem to be misundrstanding every post of mine this morning..I was not making a judgement on the Thirstys..I was just saying they are christian, the same way I would say you are christan, my friend, because you , me, they, believe in Christ and strive to follow his teachings..I hope this explains

No Miss Blue, I did not misunderstand. My point is, only Jesus can judge who is and who is not a Christian. When humans say it, we are making assumptions because we cannot see a person's heart. Only Jesus can do that.
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Old 01-20-2009, 12:03 PM
 
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The scripture about two or three coming together is speaking about discipline, not about the assembly of the saints.
Matthew 18:15 through 20. 20 is the only verse in that discourse by Jesus that is quoted, unfortunately.
It is one of the most misused verses in the bible!
Under the New Testament and Christ's Lawful Assembly...

There is no evidence in scripture to support that worship is to be a ceremonial act in a specific place.

There is no evidence in scripture to support that the "church" should incorporate and allow the state to be its sovereign.

There is no evidence in scripture to support the manner in which church "services" are done today, a monologue in front of an audience with no interaction and/or dialogue. (The Greek word for "preach" in Acts 20:7,9 is word #1256, dialegomai: it's a "dialogue" not a "monologue." Dialegomai means "to converse, discourse with one, argue, discuss". )

There is no evidence in scripture to support that a building or temple made with hands in where bondservants of Christ are to assemble and worship.

There is no evidence in scripture to support that only those who have completed seminary school can lead others. We are all fellow priests and preachers in Christ.

There is no evidence in scripture to support that sunday is the day we "go to church".

There is no evidence in scripture to support that fellowship should be accomplished in pews looking at the back at someone's head as the "priestly" philosopher recites a prepared speech after you have paid him.

There is no evidence in scripture to support that the church requires permission from the state to assemble and worship. The Church of Christ Jesus is IMMUNE not exempt from Caesars taxes, there's a difference.

Ask youself if the "church" you attend follows the Law put forth by the only authority we are to acknowledge. The Law of our Father in Heaven and Christ Jesus.
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Old 01-20-2009, 12:15 PM
 
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Under the New Testament and Christ's Lawful Assembly...


Ask youself if the "church" you attend follows the Law put forth by the only authority we are to acknowledge. The Law of our Father in Heaven and Christ Jesus.

I started to post all that you posted, but realized that only the last paragraph fits the church.
I have no idea who all of the rest of your post refers to.
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Old 01-20-2009, 12:27 PM
 
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I started to post all that you posted, but realized that only the last paragraph fits the church.
I have no idea who all of the rest of your post refers to.
The post refers to all who believe in the modern "church" in the form it exists today.

For those who believe that people should... attend "church" on sunday, assemble in a specific building, pay the fee prior to hearing the "sermon", have no dialogue with the pastor during his talk, incorporate with the state to run a "non-profit" business, etc., I say there is no scriptual support for this belief.

I don't say one cannot be blessed in some way while at "church", God has no incumberances, however to state "this is the true manner in which God commanded us to assemble and worship" is unbiblical.
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