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Old 01-20-2009, 06:32 PM
 
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Rick Warren's ending of Inaugural prayer:

We now commit our new president and his wife, Michelle and his daughters, Malia and Sasha, into your loving care.
I humbly ask this in the name of the one who changed my life, Yeshua, Isa, Jesus [Spanish pronunciation], Jesus, who taught us to pray:"

Franklin Graham's ending of Inaugural prayer:

"Now, O Lord, we dedicate this presidential inaugural ceremony to You. May this be the beginning of a new dawn for America as we humble ourselves before You and acknowledge You alone as our Lord, our Savior and our Redeemer. We pray this in the name of the Father, and of the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen."
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:05 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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More or less the same to me. I don't invoke the trinity every time I pray....I usually say "In Jesus Name" or simply "amen" Doesn't make Rick Warren's prayer any less valid IMO
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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I heard the ending and it actually sounded like Rick Warren was trying to skirt around invoking Christ name, but when he I was proud of him for doing so.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:23 PM
 
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Interesting....you see the one who changed my life, Jesus who taught us how to pray is the
same as our saviour, our redeemer, Jesus Christ.

One is his life changer but teaches us prayer, the other is our saviour
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:24 PM
 
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I heard the ending and it actually sounded like Rick Warren was trying to skirt around invoking Christ name, but when he I was proud of him for doing so.
Didn't see it as a good enough prayer, as a minister he should shout it from the rooftop. He relegated Jesus who teaching prayers, called Jesus, the one? Made hiim sound like a really cool college professor.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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I listened to two other preachers who wouldnt even mention the name of Jesus. Lowry was one and he never mentioned Jesus and I didnt catch the name of the other.

I can see your point and he did seem to skirt around it and I can see where your point of him not calling Him Savior or Redeemer could be a sticking point, so I will give it to you, he should have been shouting from the roof tops.
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Pawnee Nation
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I can't believe this parsing of words..........

We aren't happy simply teaching each other rote prayers, we are now involved in establishing the relative merits of public prayer (which Jesus said NOT to do) because their rote prayer isn't in line with your rote prayer guidelines?

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Old 01-20-2009, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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I can't believe this parsing of words..........

We aren't happy simply teaching each other rote prayers, we are now involved in establishing the relative merits of public prayer (which Jesus said NOT to do) because their rote prayer isn't in line with your rote prayer guidelines?
Could you please show the verses for your claim. I think I have seen this before but cannot find it.
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:22 PM
 
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Could you please show the verses for your claim. I think I have seen this before but cannot find it.
Yes would love to see this as well. I have yet to hear this one. His prayer was universal, thus not a Christian prayer. Does not qualify

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Old 01-20-2009, 08:29 PM
 
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The Lord’s prayer should be understood as an example, a pattern of how to pray. The Lord’s prayer teaches us to pray. It gives us the “ingredients” that should go into prayer. Here is how it breaks down: “Our Father in heaven” is teaching us whom to address our prayers to, the Father. “Hallowed be your name” is telling us to worship God and to praise Him for who He is. The phrase “your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven” is a reminder to us that we are to pray for God’s plan in our lives and the world, not our own plan. We are to pray for God’s will to be done, not for our desires. We are encouraged to ask God for the things we need in “give us today our daily bread.” “Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors” reminds us to confess our sins to God and to turn from them – and then also to forgive others as God has forgiven us. The conclusion of the Lord’s prayer, “And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one” is a plea for help in achieving victory over sin and a request for protection from the attacks of the devil.

So, again, the Lord’s prayer is not a prayer we are to memorize and recite back to God. It is only an example of how we should be praying. Is there anything wrong with memorizing the Lord’s prayer? Of course not! Is there anything wrong with praying the Lord’s prayer back to God? Not if your heart is in it and you truly mean the words you say. Remember, in prayer, God is far more interested in us communing with Him and speaking from our hearts than He is in the specific words we use.

(Philippians 4:6–7)
6 Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.
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