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Unread 02-01-2009, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Ruidoso NM
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You can sugar coat it all you want , justify, your beliefs, but if God The one who created the heavens and the earth and all that dwells within it, says that it is evil then it is evil. I do believe there are many nice people who practice witchcraft, and desire to use it for good, but even the path of hell is paved with good intentions. And no I am not spooked by your beliefs or books.


Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

1Sa 15:23 For rebellion [is as] the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness [is as] iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from [being] king. 2Ch 33:6 And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.
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Unread 02-01-2009, 05:31 PM
 
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Have you ever studied witchcraft? Do you know what witchcraft is?
I know that witchcraft can be used for unchristian and evil purposes.

- A
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Unread 02-01-2009, 05:40 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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It's really amazing how the correct medicine will get rid of the demons.
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Unread 02-01-2009, 06:17 PM
 
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Ask your pastor about the Dark Night of the Soul by St. John of the Cross.
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Unread 02-01-2009, 06:18 PM
 
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It's really amazing how the correct medicine will get rid of the demons.
I don't think that the "correct medicine" will get rid of lights and TVs in the house turning on and off by themselves.

- A
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Unread 02-01-2009, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Texas, Home Grown
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I know that witchcraft can be used for unchristian and evil purposes.

- A
Recently I had an experience where I believed the government had tapped my cell phone and they were reading my email! I believed it so hard that the people, (my children; closest friends) became very concerned for me. Come to find out I needed my thyroid medication that I hadn't taken for 4 months. The point is I thought it was real and I believed it.

So I am having a tough time with demons speaking to you through your radio and TV. My first response was to tell you to stop listening to Hannity and watching Rush Limbaugh. And of course that is a joke. Probably not a very good thing to jest about at this time, but anyway.

I gave to you a link to a web site that talks about all forms or Religion. Oh and the book, Satan is Alive and Well on Planet Earth, is a very good book that was recommended reading from a preacher. I read it and it helped me through a conversation with my agnostic brother. Oh he's still agnostic, but I was able to go toe to toe with him in an intelligent discussion in which he remarked I was very smart in my responses to his questions. I was 17. Very good book that a person can reference the Bible to the text written.

You were saying that the girl that lived there before you was a practicing witch and the the demons are there as a result of something she did.

Here is a quote from one of the pages that I linked to you and I think this most important to clarify before we continue our discussion.

"We recommend that the words "witch" or "witchcraft" never be used in sermons, speeches, articles and essays unless they are carefully pre-defined -- and perhaps not even then. In place of these terms, we recommend specific and unambiguous words and phrases."

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Later in the conversation or writing, when the precise type of activity has been identified, then perhaps the "W" word can be introduced. But, even then it is a dangerous term to use. People have attached much fear and emotional baggage to the word." Meanings of the term "Witchcraft;" recommended usage

Could be you are linking witchcraft to Satanism and the two religious beliefs have diversity within them.

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Defining Satanists as followers of a religion other than Conservative Protestantism: Fundamentalist and other evangelical Christians generally believe that there are only two powerful supernatural forces in the world: their God and Satan. A few of them believe that if a person does not worship their God and hold their beliefs, then they must be worshiping Satan." SATANISM

I quoted that paragraph from the web site, cause I thought it interesting. There are not as many Satanists as one would think.

The point that I was working toward and because my dinner is getting cold I am jumping forward. The girl who was there before you was probably to young to do anything worthy of raising up the spiritual world. I doubt she knew any more on the subject than what you know of what is Biblical and the preacher tells you.

Could be that you are attaching 'fear and emotional baggage" to the word, witchcraft.
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Unread 02-01-2009, 08:58 PM
 
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You were saying that the girl that lived there before you was a practicing witch and the the demons are there as a result of something she did.
I really don't know if this girl was a witch, but the neighbors certainly thought that there was something very weird about her. I also don't know if the presence of this evil entity is the result of her experimentations or for unrelated reasons. However, my feeling is that whatever she did was unnatural and unchristian, and that can't be a good thing.

- A
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Unread 02-01-2009, 09:03 PM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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You have got to get some oil and have a prayer vigil.....see my earlier post. This may have to be done more than once. And, they could come back again later, so be prepared to do it as many times as it takes. If you still experience voices and things turning on and off after many prayer vigils, then it's time to seek medical help.
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Unread 02-02-2009, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Texas, Home Grown
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I really don't know if this girl was a witch, but the neighbors certainly thought that there was something very weird about her. I also don't know if the presence of this evil entity is the result of her experimentations or for unrelated reasons. However, my feeling is that whatever she did was unnatural and unchristian, and that can't be a good thing.

- A
First off I agree with dayofthelord in her suggestion.

Secondly the girl, I can't help but think you are making an assumption based on feelings without really knowing the girl and what she was all about. Could be she was a young teenage Goth girl. That's all the rave now with young adults.

Remember my mobile home I told you about and how it had electrical problems being of 10 years and no care done to it? When ever I washed clothes the lights would dim and brighten. It made me think what the neighbors must think that something evil is going on inside my home. When in all reality the only spooky thing going on is the amazement that the home hasn't caught fire yet. I believe in guardian angels and I do believe I have one, if not several.

I know many things:

I know that once your soul is saved, Satan may tempt you and tell you Christ is a lie, but he can't touch you unless you give in. So be not afraid.

I know that, 'get behind me Satan', does work. As the devil came in that day on the coat tail of my brother. It was an experience that one would just have to have been there to know. As I fumbled through the Bible looking for the answers and was growing ever more frustrated as this was an important discussion and I just very loudly in my head yelled out, get behind me Satan, and poof it was if by magic I suddenly knew how to address the discussion and all.

I know Christ is not a lie, we tell ourselves. I know this because we don't lie to ourselves. We may lie to other people. But we are to close to us and the last thing we would ever do is intentionally hurt ourself. (now there is an unless, there clause, I'm not going there yet)

Now this is what I believe. I believe that you are stressed out over something in which you think there is no escape, even through the Holy Spirit.

I spoke to you of my disillusion with the power of our government what I didn't tell you is that in the apartment in which I was living, there was a woman singing in the bathroom. I couldn't see her, but I could hear her. I thought it was the neighbor downstairs until I heard the singing and my neighbor's car was gone.

You are a strong woman to talk about these things, because people normally will give to me a wide birth.

What got me through all of my troubles was I had met a preacher online here in CD and he and his wife had moved to my little town. I had their phone number and I phoned and talked to his wife and explained that I was stressed beyond stress (still hadn't related it to physical illness) and she began to read scriptures telling me to stop her when she hit on something concrete enough for me to grasp and hang onto.

She read scriptures on forgiveness. It was then I became grounded so we talked and she said, what did you think that God would not forgive you, that you had done something not worthy of His forgiveness? And I said no, I know God does forgive, but I also must forgive myself.

I escaped that little town. I left on the strength that was given to me by God as a child. I knew I could go and new all would be well with me once again because...

I know we are free!

Do as dayofthelord suggests. Cast out your demons through prayer.

And if that doesn't work getting rid of unwanted voices, go for a medical exam complete with blood work up. Hormones are a terrible thing when glands cease to produce them.

I too hear a voice. I hear the voice of the Lord. Without Him, I'd be lost forever. Cast out the demons that haunt your house and be still to hear the voice of God.

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Unread 02-02-2009, 01:40 PM
 
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My rector visited my house earlier today. He blessed each room, and anointed the entrances to my house and every room with oil, including the basement, where the circuit breakers to the house are.

When he went up into the attic, he found a place where someone (my guess is the daughter of the previous owners) had carved a pentagram into one of the wooden floorboards, as well as evidence of old candle wax drippings nearby. I hardly ever went up into the attic, so I had no idea this was there.

His feeling was that this could be a focal point of the problem. He said several powerful blessings in the attic, drew a cross over the pentagram using anointing oil, and told me that he'd ask a church member who owns a construction company to come over and remove the unchristian symbol with a sander. He's also going to come back later this week to perform another blessing, especially in the attic.

I pray to Jesus that this has rid the demon from my house.

- A
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