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Old 01-30-2009, 12:30 PM
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Default USA's Judeo christianity and its influence - mainly political.

Without biting around the bush, I have always found it strange that at the heart of usa's jewish and isreal support, wether it be political or whatever, that at the center of this there are religous motivation to back isreal or the jews purely because they are jews. I mean we, as christians, have no special obligation to the jews, not according to scripture ! No sir! I am not trying to stir up any anti-semetic sentiments here, no i am not. But merely pointing out that we need not be at the other end of the spectrum either, where we are so pro-jewish that we loose focus on what the scriptures expect of u - to love all man and preach the gospel to all man - lossing focus all in the name of our judeo christian faith. Do we realise that jews are just as equally cursed as the arabs - just like any other sinner who doesnt give his life to christ. According to scripture they are also subjects of Gods wrath.
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From the biblical declarations of God's love and care for His chosen people, the nation of Israel, and from the history of nations being destroyed because of their evil dealings with God's chosen people, the Jews, Christian believers should give support to the chosen people of God. This is not to say that we support necessarily the methods they use in their relationships with the Arab nations.

The Abrahamic Covenant

(Genesis 12:2–3)
2 “I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.”
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I hope you do realise that this verse or prophecy is given to abraham who is also the father ishmael! Jews deserve the same kind of support as anyone! Thats the christian way.
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Have you ever thought of the possible implications of that verse - To whom much is given much is required.
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One need only look at a map... and see how easy Israel could be overcome. The very fact it still exists speaks to God's promise... IMO.
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I hope you do realise that this verse or prophecy is given to abraham who is also the father ishmael! Jews deserve the same kind of support as anyone! Thats the christian way.
The Bible warns that conflict would always characterize the relations between the descendants of Isaac and Ishmael. Sadly, this conflict will continue until Jesus comes back to judge the nations and sets up his 1,000 year reign of peace on earth. We must look at the "big picture” with a biblical worldview. While we do not have to support everything Israel does as a nation, we most definitely should support Israel’s right to exist. God will fulfill His promises and covenants with Israel. Woe to anyone who seeks to defeat that plan.

(Genesis 12:2–3)

2 “I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.”
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For sure israel plays a vital role Gods plan- past, present and future. This is gods plan and nothing we do or dont do with will change this. So lets not try to help God! NO! Instead we should focus on what he has commanded us to do, thats our duty as his obedient servants. Again I will say this gen 12 refers to God blessing abraham who is the father of both arabs and jews. In addition we are told that abraham wil be a father of many nations.who are the these nations? Brothers we can not play god and leave our posts so that we can make sure gods plan is fullfilled. Commandments have been given to us. God is going to save israel in His own way. Let us not interven, but stand in the call He has given us.
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