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Old 03-04-2009, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Richio,
Yes. I believe He is the savior through what He taught. I don't believe He had to die for our sins. I love Him as much as I love God.
So if I understand, you believe that what He taught - saves, but He Himself is not the Savior.

Where are His teachings?
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Richio,

There are two places I go to learn His teachings. My church is at www.new-birth.net & www.fcdt.org

The other place where I got that messages from is at 11:11 Message Archive (http://www.1111spiritguardians.com/archives.html - broken link) & 11:11 George Barnard Archives (http://www.1111spiritguardians.com/GeorgeBarnardArchives.html - broken link) (More humerous)

The church readings tell about Divine Love. The latter doesn't really get into that although it's more with Midwayers, teachers from other planets and our God Fragment. Christ Michael (Jesus) teaches there too.

I want you to be aware that it isn't up to me what you want to believe in. I don't do that. I love all of Gods children, my brothers and sisters, exactly the same. I'm only giving you this reading material, not forcing it on you. You can still believe in the bible as well as believe in something else.

May God's Love enter your soul and raise your spirituality. I'm off now. I'll check in tomorrow.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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So if I understand, you believe that what He taught - saves, but He Himself is not the Savior.

Where are His teachings?
You don't beleive jesus was the savior--yet you quote scripture? Wow. I thought most christians had difficulties with internal consistency--but this is a better example.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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dcashley,
You misunderstand. Jesus is the savior through what He taught, not that He died for our sins. What He taught saves all from sin - Divine Love
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Hot-Houston Texas
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dcashley,
You misunderstand. Jesus is the savior through what He taught, not that He died for our sins. What He taught saves all from sin - Divine Love
No you misunderstand, Jesus is the Savior of the world BECAUSE He died for our sins
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:17 PM
 
Location: NC
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Reverend 111, just wondering, why do you believe Jesus died and was raised to life? God bless.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by Richio
So if I understand, you believe that what He taught - saves, but He Himself is not the Savior.

Where are His teachings?
You don't beleive jesus was the savior--yet you quote scripture? Wow. I thought most christians had difficulties with internal consistency--but this is a better example.
I was being certain that I understood what 'Rev' believes.

As for myself, I certainly do believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God.
In one word: YES, Jesus is the Savior.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Richio,

There are two places I go to learn His teachings. My church is at www.new-birth.net & www.fcdt.org

The other place where I got that messages from is at 11:11 Message Archive (http://www.1111spiritguardians.com/archives.html - broken link) & 11:11 George Barnard Archives (http://www.1111spiritguardians.com/GeorgeBarnardArchives.html - broken link) (More humerous)

The church readings tell about Divine Love. The latter doesn't really get into that although it's more with Midwayers, teachers from other planets and our God Fragment. Christ Michael (Jesus) teaches there too.

I want you to be aware that it isn't up to me what you want to believe in. I don't do that. I love all of Gods children, my brothers and sisters, exactly the same. I'm only giving you this reading material, not forcing it on you. You can still believe in the bible as well as believe in something else.

May God's Love enter your soul and raise your spirituality. I'm off now. I'll check in tomorrow.
Sorry, I think (for me) it would not please my Lord were I to go and look at your site, but you're here so I'll ask you instead.
Not that it would convince me of anything. I just feel it would not be right.

How do you 'know' these teachings are the teachings of Jesus?
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Old 03-04-2009, 06:24 PM
 
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I was being certain that I understood what 'Rev' believes.

As for myself, I certainly do believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God.
In one word: YES, Jesus is the Savior.
Why anyone make it very hard to understand and interpret what Jesus teached. Yes, as simple as that we just have to believe Jesus Christ and accept him with our whole heart, let him enter our lives and love him, recognizes him as our saviour accompanied by good deeds. Richio, I admire your faith and I wish everyone would have the same faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.
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Old 03-04-2009, 06:33 PM
 
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Fundamentalist,

It means, if you don't believe in God, it's ok because He believes in you.
Huh! what on earth is that? where do you find your teachings..? As what Jesus teach us we have to bring the good news to those who doesn't heard about it, I am just wondering if you find an atheist what will you preach him? the word of our Lord or just leave him because it is ok if he is a non believer?
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