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Old 01-02-2010, 09:14 AM
 
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No doubt, we can have healthy debate regarding interpretation of the figurative language of the text.

But the discussion, when focused on the amplification of Christ, may help some of you to a least begin to appreciate when we papists discuss marionology.

It's not about worshipping another human being.

It's about trying to understand the maternal contribution to our salvation.
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Old 02-03-2010, 05:28 PM
 
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The queen of Heaven is The Virgin of Guadalupe, and SHE is a manifestation of love of God.

God wants that we have Confidence and Faith, because they are an important tools for the way of God.
The Faith is to believe in something that you can´t see, and the scientists always need a proof or something that confirm them that is of God, so The things of God just we can see with the eyes of the heart.
for that reasons the manifestations of God are always for people who live in honesty, in innocence, being spontaneous, and the humility, humility of heart.

The main obstacle for understanding the things of God is the mind, He asked us to open our hearts for seeing him.

For me doesn´t exist the separation God, The Virgin of Guadalupe and Jesus in The Unity.
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Old 02-04-2010, 04:44 PM
 
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The women in Revelations is the presence of the Lord God in the earth,,,, and grace of the children and new converts of the world,,,,, Queen of Heaven is a non biblical ..... The women is The Lord God with Israel on the Old Testament, giving Birth to Jesus for for the New Testament in the Word , to baptising people in the baptism of the Holy Spirit. and will be there to help in the Rapture of the Saints in the last days to Jesus Second coming, ,
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:32 PM
 
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The Virgin Mary is The Queen of Heaven.

SHE did something important, She accepted The Will of God with Love and She is going to teach us how to identify us in The Divine willing.
She is our Mother Full of Love and She is in all The hearts of all The people, believers and no believers.

God,The Virgin Mary and Jesus live in our hearts.
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Old 02-26-2010, 06:19 PM
 
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The Virgin Mary is The Queen of Heaven.

SHE did something important, She accepted The Will of God with Love
"May it happen to me as you have said." Lk 1:38 GNB

"As you have said." Mary was not asked- she was told what was going to happen- whether she liked it or not. It would have been awful faithlessness to even think that God's angel could be mistaken. So why did Mary say "May it happen to me as you have said"?

She may have said this to tell the angel that she now understood why he had visited her- that she understood his answer, after her question as to how she could give birth.

She may, by this comment, have expressed the hope of all Israel, that the Messiah should come. If this was here meaning, it was only to be expected of her. The angel might have expressed surprise had she not shown some welcome at the news he brought. Indeed, Mary might have expressed a good deal more joy than she apparently did.

Mary may have been annoyed that she was not asked. She may have wanted to think that she had been asked, and gave an impression that she had been asked- if only to herself.

Whatever her actual meaning, there is nothing creditable about her comment, more than any descendant of Jacob should have shown.
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Old 02-26-2010, 06:33 PM
 
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Rev 12
1:
And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3: And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4: And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5: And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6: And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

The Queen of Heaven. Mary, the Mother of God. Please oh Protestant ones, how ELSE can you interpret (oh should I say twist) this scripture any other way?

Can't wait for the replies

The woman clothed in the stars and in the moon is Israel ... Not Mary. The concept of the queen of heaven is one of the most pagan concepts of Catholicism. It is Babylonian and Egyptian just as are most of the false doctrines of the RCC.

The queen of heaven, the black Madonna, which you speak of is not even Mary in reality, she is the mother of Nimrod - Semiramis ... And she is Isis the mother of Horus.


The phrase "queen of heaven" appears nowhere in the scriptures. Ever wonder why? Maybe because there is no such thing. If anything, the church is the queen, because she is the bride of Christ who is the king. We are Christs mother and brothers and sisters according to his own words(Mk 3:31–35).
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