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Hmm, ok. How many times must you threaten people? Don't be scared and run away, DEFEND the faith!!
I am sure glad Yashua didn't feel te same way. They said He had devils and such, so by them saying that, they believed Him to be a 'mystic', for what else is a devil except a spirit?
All of the mystics here know where I stand with their heresy. There are beaucoups of posts regarding it. This is what Jesus had to say:
Mark 6
11And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them."
I am finished going in circles with them. It's an endless argument and that's why I am not associating with them anymore. Lest they repent and revoke their false teachings.
All of the mystics here know where I stand with their heresy. There are beaucoups of posts regarding it. This is what Jesus had to say:
Mark 6
11And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them."
I am finished going in circles with them. It's an endless argument and that's why I am not associating with them anymore. Lest they repent and revoke their false teachings.
You can't, even by using the Word of Yahweh, defend your principles about the God you serve. You place yourself up there with the disciples, thinking you KNOW the mind of the Savior? They DID. It was given to them. And not in a book, but by the Word Himself. They dusted the shoes to not take ANYTHING with them fouled and unclean. It was held as a testimony against them in the towns, but the other part missing that you cannot see, is this. It was held as a Testimony FOR the Disciples. Leave the dead to bury the dead. Who do you think lived in those towns? They believed in their God, as much as you do, if not more, as that WAS their life. They just didn't understand, not seek to understand, the Truth, and the Way TO LIFE. They loved their religion just too damn much.
Regarding the End of Days. So-called experts are divided. Some see it as future prophesy and others see it in a historical perspective. So much of what is written in various religions / ideologies sounds like a fairy tale. The Book of Mormon, followed by millions, sounds like science fiction to me (I have a Catholic / Christian background). Much of Islamic belief probably feels that way to the Christian and vice versa.
Heck. Throw in Santa Claus for that fairy tale feeling too.
I hear that the truth shall be told. I bet most of us, if not all, won't be able to handle it.
If you think the Rapture is "gleaned" from merely those two passages, then you really have no idea. And who said anything about date-setting?
Yes, carolina_guy, most dispensationalists appeal MAINLY to 1 Thessalonians 4 and 1 Corinthians 15 to support their false idea of a rapture. Also, most people who believe in a rapture, believe that such an event will happen SOON. What I thought I conveyed is that the SOON time frame for a "rapture" that is pronounced by many "scholars" today will come and go many times in the lifetime of some on these boards!
What is the true nature of the rapture, broadhill? Are you sure that you have the right concept? Study again 1 Thessalonians 4 and 1 Corinthians 15. When Paul says "we," to whom is he referring? Is he not speaking to flesh-and-blood people of his day about things that were to personally affect them? Do you get a sense of expectancy in Paul's words? His words were directed at those of his day and the things of which he spoke (e.g. the dead in Christ rising first and they who were alive being caught together with them) involved him and his contemporaries. That is the mood and atmosphere in the context of these passages. Paul did not tell us to be comforted by his words, did he? He spoke directly to those of Thessalonica to "comfort one another with these words" (1 Thes. 4:18). It is ridiculous to think that they, while going through terrible persecutions and trials, often unto death, were to be comforted by some far-distant coming of Christ to rescue OTHER PEOPLE! THEY justifiably expected rescue and relief from their trials in their lifetimes!
Why do so many always make everything about us?
Preterist
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