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Old 04-14-2009, 03:35 PM
 
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Hi there, I come in peace, I promise. This thread is not whether you are "Pro-Life" or "Pro-Choice" and whether it is right or wrong. I am curious as to how you guys (Pro-Lifers and Christians) decide WHEN it becomes wrong. Please use specific terms and not ambiguous phrases.

At what stage in the process of sexual reproduction is the cutoff line between right and wrong?

For instance, is it wrong to wear a condom, thus preventing the sperm from reaching the egg? Sex, according to God, is meant for procreation. Would wearing a condom be considered a form of abortion?

Or is it when:
-When the sperm first enters the vagina?
-When the sperm penetrates the egg?
-3 hours after this?
-4 weeks after this?
-10 weeks after this?

I am just looking for the cutoff line as to 'when' it becomes wrong. And also, can you justify this position using scripture? Again, I am not trying to incite anything negative. I am just curious as to how you arrived at your exact position. Thanks!

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Old 04-14-2009, 03:44 PM
 
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conception
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:45 PM
 
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Conception.
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:55 PM
 
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When, scientifically speaking, does conception happen? Conception is a vague word. Could you please be a bit more specific?
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:55 PM
 
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Conception.

Period. The END!
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:59 PM
 
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For instance, is it wrong to wear a condom, thus preventing the sperm from reaching the egg? Sex, according to God, is meant for procreation. Would wearing a condom be considered a form of abortion?
And yes, As a Catholic, we view contraception as a moral evil.

Humanae Vitae - Encyclical Letter of His Holiness Paul VI on the regulation of birth, 25 July 1968

View that for why. It was written by the pope.
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Old 04-14-2009, 04:10 PM
 
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Conception.
What they said.

I realize the government will spend every nickel it gets, but hypothetically 57 million more workers paying into the system would benefit us all - not to mention the entrepreneurs, inventors, etc. from that class.
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Old 04-14-2009, 04:10 PM
 
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When, scientifically speaking, does conception happen? Conception is a vague word. Could you please be a bit more specific?
Fertilization.
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Old 04-14-2009, 04:16 PM
 
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Can you call it an abortion if the kid is 10 years old and obnoxious?
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Old 04-14-2009, 04:19 PM
 
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Hi there, I come in peace, I promise. This thread is not whether you are "Pro-Life" or "Pro-Choice" and whether it is right or wrong. I am curious as to how you guys (Pro-Lifers and Christians) decide WHEN it becomes wrong. Please use specific terms and not ambiguous phrases.

At what stage in the process of sexual reproduction is the cutoff line between right and wrong?
Another vote for conception, when the sperm meets the egg and it becomes an embryo.

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For instance, is it wrong to wear a condom, thus preventing the sperm from reaching the egg? Sex, according to God, is meant for procreation. Would wearing a condom be considered a form of abortion?
No...by wearing a condom you're not killing anything, you're just not letting it happen in the first place. God also meant for sex to be enjoyable, otherwise He wouldn't have made it so.

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Or is it when:
-When the sperm first enters the vagina?
-When the sperm penetrates the egg?
-3 hours after this?
-4 weeks after this?
-10 weeks after this?

I am just looking for the cutoff line as to 'when' it becomes wrong. And also, can you justify this position using scripture? Again, I am not trying to incite anything negative. I am just curious as to how you arrived at your exact position. Thanks!
I vote for when the sperm penetrates the egg.
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