Things that bothered me in church. (scriptures, pray, priest, sinners) - - Page 2 - City-Data Forum

Fundamentalist · 05-14-2009, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by StirringWaters

I get sick to death of reading how a person must be bitter because of a church experience. They go on to trash a person. The problem CAN and many times DOES lie within a church building.

Have none of you that resort to bitter-bashing ever been to a church where the pastor is treated as the equivalent of our Savior? Where the women in the church compete for position? Where there is so much gossiping and looking down on fellow members that the Spirit couldn't possibly be there?

It happens.

It is quite possible it wasn't Dani's fault. My, how we jump to conclusions.

It is also possible that the Lord had Dani go through that church experience for a reason that is to HIS good purpose. It could be that she is floundering in a wilderness right now, and He will bring her to Him when His time is right.

The possibilities are endless.

I feel for you, Dani. Hang in there. Love your posts and your questions.

Stirring. I hear you maybe we could be more sensitive in our responses but we are called to go a good church and that means sound biblical teaching. No church is perfect (ask the Apostle Paul

)and far too many times I have seen church used as a scape goat in this forum. I was once told, the day you find the perfect church, keep on moving because you will only mess things up by attending.

Jackyfrost01 · 05-14-2009, 06:59 AM

What bothered me about church:

boring and sounded like I was sitting thru a modern mythology class. Left not feeling like I did more than lose an hour of my life.

Fundamentalist · 05-14-2009, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jackyfrost01

What bothered me about church:

boring and sounded like I was sitting thru a modern mythology class. Left not feeling like I did more than lose an hour of my life.

What would people do if they lived in a small town and only had one church?

Here is the problem Jacky. Too many have the wrong concept of church. Church is NOT for us, it is for HIM, His glory, His worship. We go to church to worship Him.

Jackyfrost01 · 05-14-2009, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fundamentalist

What would people do if they lived in a small town and only had one church?

Here is the problem Jacky. Too many have the wrong concept of church. Church is NOT for us, it is for HIM, His glory, His worship. We go to church to worship Him.

They would either go to church OR they wouldn't. Free country.

And I was just answering the OP's question of why I didn't like church. Care less whose shrine it is or what farm animals are sacrificed at the altars, just stating I thought it was boring and as I don't swallow the existence of Zeus or whoever the god of the day is, its just not the place for me. Each their own.

Have a good day.

Fundamentalist · 05-14-2009, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jackyfrost01

They would either go to church OR they wouldn't. Free country.

And I was just answering the OP's question of why I didn't like church. Care less whose shrine it is or what farm animals are sacrificed at the altars, just stating I thought it was boring and as I don't swallow the existence of Zeus or whoever the god of the day is, its just not the place for me. Each their own.

Have a good day.

Yes this is a free country therefore I must accept your logical fallacies.

StirringWaters · 05-14-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fundamentalist

Stirring. I hear you maybe we could be more sensitive in our responses but we are called to go a good church and that means sound biblical teaching. No church is perfect (ask the Apostle Paul

)and far too many times I have seen church used as a scape goat in this forum. I was once told, the day you find the perfect church, keep on moving because you will only mess things up by attending.

You're right.

As I said, sometimes it is a person...sometimes it is a church membership as a whole. We shouldn't jump to conclusions.

No church is perfect, but no church should be complacent as imperfect.

StirringWaters · 05-14-2009, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by curlythecosmo

I have to agree with you StirringWaters..... most of the time people who have been deeply hurt come away with a bitter, angry spirit! And God can heal it in His time.
I have learned through the years, the bad, maybe rejection, whatever that has happen usually is for our good and possibly protection in the long run!
There is a reason for that season and I believe to prepare us for what lies ahead and God will reveal in its time!!!

Blessings

There's no telling why the Lord has someone on an individual path. Being cruel to a "bitter" person only makes them more "bitter". Lending a caring ear does wonders. As I love to say, the Lord described Himself as gentle and humble...I believe we should approach "bitterness" like that.

Blessings to you, Curly!!!

Cyber Munchkin · 05-14-2009, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by StirringWaters

There's no telling why the Lord has someone on an individual path. Being cruel to a "bitter" person only makes them more "bitter". Lending a caring ear does wonders. As I love to say, the Lord described Himself as gentle and humble...I believe we should approach "bitterness" like that.

Blessings to you, Curly!!!

Only God knows what really is going on in a heart!!! We only see the symptoms....which can be taken totally wrong a lot of the times!!

Blessings

jennaflorrie · 05-14-2009, 07:51 AM

Well, there is NOTHING that bothers me about the church I go to. Its a Methodist Church, the Minister is brilliant. The people that go are like family. There is good teaching, good balance, good worship. So cannot fault it.

But I have been to certain churches - where maybe the people are not getting fed on the word. They don't understand a thing. They go in and they go out the same way. The mirror is cloudy. They haven't seen their true reflection, of sin and how we are saved by Grace through Christ.

Now, the Old Testament is filled with the judgement of God. But God had mercy time and time again on those who sincerely called out to him. God is still looking for those who will reach out to him.

A church should be a wonderful place, a meeting place of family in God. A place of rest - not perfect of course not. But sounds like some people just are not getting touched by Gods Holy Spirit at all, makes me wonder why. Either the people who are attending are hardening their hearts - or the church hasn't got it right on the dot.

Fundamentalist · 05-14-2009, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by StirringWaters

You're right.

As I said, sometimes it is a person...sometimes it is a church membership as a whole. We shouldn't jump to conclusions.

No church is perfect, but no church should be complacent as imperfect.

You mean like church discipline? The reason why there are so many problems in the church today like the ones you pointed out is because there is a lack of leadership, a church not following sound biblical doctrine of the structure of a church. Pastors who are afraid to offend members. People who accuse the church want to get rid of some things in the church, the things that offend them but they forget the door swings both ways and that there are things that they do that the God will frown upon them also.