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Old 01-14-2011, 04:22 PM
 
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I can't find any examples of the early church doing any of what you said...

Scripturally speaking, it seems that the message should be preaching Christ crucified. God will see to it that none are left out..

Blessings,
brian
That's what you think!

 
Old 01-14-2011, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Italy
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That's what you think!
God isn't relying on man to get man saved. That's His job!
We are called to preach Christ, and Him crucified. Not hell and eternal torment, which are not to be found in the early church preachings.

But if you are believing your pastor more than the scriptures...

Peace,
brian
 
Old 01-14-2011, 07:59 PM
 
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Yes I understand that you as other Christians want people to fear.... You know I have a faith and a G-d and I do not fear.... I do feel sorry for those who seek to strike fear in the hearts of others....

One day you as all the other fear mongers will find that the spiritual reality is not what you all have thought....

That I am sure of!
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Actually it's going to be the other way around.
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Like I said my faith is as strong as yours and right. You are simply a fear monger and one day you will find that you may not have been right. The difference is I don't think you are heading to hell. I do feel sorry for you though because you have spent a lifetime trying to make others fear.
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LOL. We'll see about that.
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It does in fact seem that the Gospel has become a "message of fear and terror" for many Christians. Terrorizing people into believing in God.

REALLY strange..

Blessings!
Brian
It appears, Brian . . . that the mainstream Christian churches have confused our loving Father, God . . . with the GODFATHER!!! Love me or else!!!!
 
Old 01-14-2011, 08:23 PM
 
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Full article here:Nurse Fired for Religious Beliefs - Nursing Link


I thought as nurse we deal with the WHOLE person, mind, body and soul? I think he should seek legal counsel, after all, he was asked "his opinion" during a role play. Unbelievable.
I guess you missed the end of the article where it says:


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‘The incident which led to the launch of the investigation was unfortunately not the first. Since joining us in 2005 Mr Rao had continuously shown a disregard for the Nursing and Midwifery’s (NMC) code of conduct which he had breached on more than one occasion.

‘Mr Rao was given every opportunity to assure us that this would not happen again, but he was unable to do so and showed little regard for the standards of care and professionalism that is expected of him as a nurse.’
 
Old 01-15-2011, 05:51 AM
 
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The article does say that Mr. Rao repeatedly violated the code of the hospital, and if he wishes to give spiritual advice along with medical attention he would have no problem finding a job in a religiously-oriented hospital. Nurses are in high demand.

As for the phlebotomist who was asked to not wear her crucifix for sanitary reason, sounds like more hysterical rubbish. At the hospital that I use these particular employees are required to remove all jewelry before beginning their shift.

Sounds like the usual case of people trying to make out that they are being "martyred," instead of getting on with the job they were hired to perform. If these things take precedent over providing health care, then seek employment in a medical setting run by a religous group. Certainly not hard to find. End of "problem."
 
Old 01-15-2011, 06:00 AM
 
Location: then: U.S.A., now: Europe
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Full article here:Nurse Fired for Religious Beliefs - Nursing Link


I thought as nurse we deal with the WHOLE person, mind, body and soul? ...
You think wrong.

A large number of people don't believe in any such religious figment as the "soul." When I seek medical help I do not want that superstition dragged into the treatment picture. It is gratuitous proselytizing and I would most certainly register a very strong complaint about it if it were a secular facility.

And I would hope that you would be strongly disciplined for religious prating if you are employed in a non-religious institution.

If I am in a hospital run by a religious organization, then clearly I would have to put up with that BS and stuff it. However, in those situations where I have been in relgioiusly run hospitals I have made my views firmly but politely plain upon the first religious approach, and fortunately I have been respected and not subjected to further religious approaches.
 
Old 01-19-2011, 07:46 AM
 
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As you desire.....be careful what you wish for though, sometimes wishes do come through, you understand?

In other words you do not care if someone was unqualified to be in the medical profession.
 
Old 01-19-2011, 08:46 AM
 
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Full article here:Nurse Fired for Religious Beliefs - Nursing Link


I thought as nurse we deal with the WHOLE person, mind, body and soul? I think he should seek legal counsel, after all, he was asked "his opinion" during a role play. Unbelievable.
Moderator cut: edit Break the rules, get fired.

From the article:

A spokesmen for the NHS Trust said: ‘Since joining us Mr Rao had continuously shown a disregard for the nursing council’s code of conduct, which he had breached on more than one occasion.’

The NMC Code of Conduct states "You must not use your professional status to promote causes that are not related to health."

The nurse was in the wrong. Just because it's "roleplay" doesn't mean he can go against the law. Could he reveal a patient's medical history to someone else during roleplay and then claim he was in the right because it was "roleplay"?? No.

Religion has no bearing on medical treatment. The nurse broke the law more than once, so he's fired, and rightfully so. Keep your religious beliefs where they belong -- in church, not in the hospital.

Last edited by Miss Blue; 01-19-2011 at 10:28 AM.. Reason: sarcasm deleted
 
Old 01-21-2011, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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In other words you do not care if someone was unqualified to be in the medical profession.
Call it what you want, but don't put words in my mouth. I'm STILLLLL (yes, emphasis on still, added) praying and again, ain't no devil in hell (nor anywhere else for that matter) gonna stop me! I haven't had one refuse prayer yet! You all can sit there and say whatever you want NOW, but believe me............when you're laying there on YOUR deathbed, it's a whole other story, believe that if nothing else!
 
Old 02-13-2011, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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It does in fact seem that the Gospel has become a "message of fear and terror" for many Christians. Terrorizing people into believing in God.

REALLY strange..

Blessings!
Brian
Yes, I know, we're now the "new terrorist" too right? Let's get rid of the "Christians"!! Wait a minute!! Didn't Jesus warn us that this too would happen? Guess what, we're here....


Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.

All these are the beginning of birth pains.

"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me".

At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other,

and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. (Matt 24; 7-11)

I'd say we were warned, wouldn't you? But you know as well as I do....WE WIN!! Read the back of the book! We win!! (anybody else want to join us?)
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