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As far as any agreement on the myriad views held by the people who follow Jesus who also, "...have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy," (Ja 5:11) know that there remains every variety of doctrine, even much difference in understanding Ultimate Restoration of all unto God. Scripture is clear, God will be "all in all" (cf., 1 Co 15:28) so there should be some understanding in every believer concerning that.
I was talking to a universalist and he told me that the Jews are no longer the chosen people, is this the consensus of universalism or is it one's man's interpretation? What do you believe?
Yes, they are. Is there anywhere in the bible that says that they are not His chosen people anymore? Did God ever say that He was going to remove them from being His chosen people? If you can answer that, then you have your answer.
I was talking to a universalist and he told me that the Jews are no longer the chosen people, is this the consensus of universalism or is it one's man's interpretation? What do you believe?
they will also imply that as all "eventually" come to god............Jesus's sacrafice on the cross is null and void............
Jesus's sacrifice was essential for All of mankind . Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.Behold the lamb of God who taketh(not going to but taketh) away the sins of the world. If i be lifted up iwill draw ALL men unto me.
If you think His blood was shed for just thos who believe you are gravely mistaken.His blood was shed that the whole world would be reconciled back to Himself. He was slain before the foundations of the world , why before the foundations of the world ? becaus the world is not just those who believed after the crucifixion , no the world means the whole of creation . If you say what's the point of believing if we are all saved anyway ? my answer would be to you why wouldn't you ? , how could you resist and neglect such a great salvation.
Well done on that LAST point PCAMPS.....you got THAT right. There is no question about it. Yahushua was the "Acceptable Sacrifice" and the Lamb provided by Yah to take away our sin through HIS shedding of blood. Prior to Yahushua remission of sin was ALWAYS dealt with by the shedding of blood. NOW we can do it through Teshuvah (turning back) to YHVH and repenting of our sin. It is through that shedding of blood and through the Messiah we can have this. It does however also state in Psalms that indeed YHVH (the one you probably call God) is our Salvation. It is "through" the processess brought forth via the Messiah we can be worthy. Unrepentant individuals need not apply however. This is NO free ride contrary to some xtian doctrine......it is however most certainly an exercise of "grace" (unmerited gift) make no mistake about that. It is in our hearts and nature to sin, but through this process there is indeed much hope and restoration to be had.
Jesus's sacrifice was essential for All of mankind . Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.Behold the lamb of God who taketh(not going to but taketh) away the sins of the world. If i be lifted up iwill draw ALL men unto me.
If you think His blood was shed for just thos who believe you are gravely mistaken.His blood was shed that the whole world would be reconciled back to Himself. He was slain before the foundations of the world , why before the foundations of the world ? becaus the world is not just those who believed after the crucifixion , no the world means the whole of creation . If you say what's the point of believing if we are all saved anyway ? my answer would be to you why wouldn't you ? , how could you resist and neglect such a great salvation.
I was talking to a universalist and he told me that the Jews are no longer the chosen people, is this the consensus of universalism or is it one's man's interpretation? What do you believe?
I don't believe anyone is "chosen." This is ridiculous.
If you don't believe anyone is "chosen" then you most certainly NEVER read all of scripture. IT is there countless times repeated ad nauseum that Israel (the people NOT the country) are his "Set Apart" ones. They are preserved to be taken by the bridegroom when Messiah returns. Get a clue. Remember Israel is NOT the church, they are all of those that are either native born or grafted in to the commonwealth of Israel.....HIS people. It is NOT the "church". There are 12 tribes, most of which were scattered to the 4 corners of the earth. They WILL be regathered and will Aliyah (return). Messiah is returning for the "Lost Sheep Of the House of Israel"....very simple, but churchianity wants to change that.....not gonna happen. YHVH never renigs on a promise, and it is forever and ever. He said so
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