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Old 09-24-2009, 02:13 PM
 
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This is true but not ok. God wanted us to be unified and have "no divisions among us" (1 Cor. 1:10) and he is not the author of confusion. If we all used the WHOLE bible we would all be on the same page in most of the areas if not all. Sadly we pick and choose verses and take them out of context and add to God's word and take away from it. judgment day will be a wake up call for a lot of ppl
Not if the universalist are right. Haven't you heard, were all going to heaven. It's a win win situation
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Interpreted by the church of today to mean if you don't believe what i do you are not a christian.
Legalistic, Doctrinal Phariseeism is alive and well on this forum
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:14 PM
 
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Absolutely!!!! Man has a choice. We choose for ourselves. God gave man free will.
Yes you are right God clearly says, that we are also responsible if we reject Him.
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:14 PM
 
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Not if the universalist are right. Haven't you heard, were all going to heaven. It's a win win situation
If that's the case why are we even trying? We do not have to care or love Him or obey anything. Makes no sense to me.
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:15 PM
 
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Legalistic, Doctrinal Phariseeism is alive and well on this forum
That's not legalism
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:15 PM
 
Location: New England
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No interpretation, it is what it is.

To please God, then your religion must not only be in full agreement with the Bible, but you should be applied in every activity of your life.

IE: Christian person talks the talk but does not walk the walk.
So i take from what you are saying that from the very day you believed you had complete understanding of God and walked the walk as you call it.This post speaks volumes , it's all about what you are doing and nothing about what God is doing in your life. If it wasn't you and God working in you , that is what your boast would be ,"In God and not yourself"

You need to take the advice of the scriptures and study to show yourself approved of God and not study to see who is and who isn't .

Full agreement with the bible you are having a laugh aren't ya ? Where does it even come close to saying anything like that .

Oh how good and pleasant it is when we worship Him in unity . In otherwords we worship God in unity because of who He is, rather than this nonsense of believing all the same man made doctrines.

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Old 09-24-2009, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Yes you are right God clearly says, that we are also responsible if we reject Him.
Fundy, you know very well that God has to draw us to Himself before we can even hear and respond to the Gospel message. How can a person reject something they are not able to understand?
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Bora Bora: Vava'u.
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Interpreted by the church of today to mean if you don't believe what i do you are not a christian.
What does it profit, my brethern, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him? For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from the works is dead. Ja 2:14 , 26

A person does not earn salvation by his works, But anyone who has genuine faith will have works to go with it.

Works of obedience to the commands of God and of Christ. Works that demonstrate his faith and his love. Without such works, his faith is dead.........
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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Fundy, you know very well that God has to draw us to Himself before we can even hear and respond to the Gospel message. How can a person reject something they are not able to understand?
Yes I do but God is clear that our wills have also to do with it. He gave us the creation, the universe, order, design, laws of physics, gravity, thermo dynamics etc....He gave us a conscience "with knowledge" The atheist have absolutely no excuse.
The creation screams there is a creator but they reject Him because they hate Him, they hate the fact that they will have to answer to Him. Then there are people who believe that God created the world because its obvious yet they stop right there and create a god to suit themselves instead of find what the true God wants of them

God has revealed Himself Christy.
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:26 PM
 
Location: New England
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What does it profit, my brethern, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him? For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from the works is dead. Ja 2:14 , 26

A person does not earn salvation by his works, But anyone who has genuine faith will have works to go with it.

Works of obedience to the commands of God and of Christ. Works that demonstrate his faith and his love. Without such works, his faith is dead.........
I know what it means and i also know what it means to organized christianity .

And i suppose you are the judge of who is and who isn't living according to how you believe ?.
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