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Old 06-16-2009, 12:32 PM
 
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I don't believe Jesus came to save every human being, scripture does not support it.
Don't count on it Fundy!
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:32 PM
 
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Absolutely not!!!!!!!!!!
well then, if Jesus came to save the entire world, Jesus came to save those that believe and the only way they can believe is if God draws them and yet everyone doesn't believe? why?
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:33 PM
 
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Calvin was a murderer, I hope know you this.

He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.
Proverbs 17:15

isn't murder wicked? when you follow Calvin you justify the wicked.

The Fruit of Cain Multiplied: The Murderer John Calvin (http://www.thepathoftruth.com/falseteachers/johncalvin.htm - broken link)
I see nothing in scripture to support Jesus saved everyone.
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:37 PM
 
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well then, if Jesus came to save the entire world, Jesus came to save those that believe and the only way they can believe is if God draws them and yet everyone doesn't believe? why?
Our God is the Saviour of all mankind, not the potential Saviour, He is the Saviour of all mankind! But wait, He is not only the Ssviour of all mankind: He is especially the Saviour of those who believe!
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:38 PM
 
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Quick Fundy! What does especially mean?

What does only mean?
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:39 PM
 
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Our God is the Saviour of all mankind, not the potential Saviour, He is the Saviour of all mankind! But wait, He is not only the Ssviour of all mankind: He is especially the Saviour of those who believe!
of course Jesus is the saviour of all mankind. Is there another saviour I don't know about. It means the world has a saviour, it doesn't mean he came to save everyone furthermore Jesus can only save those who believes.

You still didn't answer my previous posts.
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:40 PM
 
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Quick Fundy! What does especially mean?

What does only mean?
Please what context?
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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of course Jesus is the saviour of all mankind.......Jesus can only save those who believes.
Jesus Christ is the Saviour of all mankind!

"Faithful is this saying and deserving of universal acceptance: and here is the motive of our toiling and wrestling, because we have our hopes fixed on the ever-living God, who is the Saviour of all mankind, and especially of believers [of those who believe). Command this and teach this."
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:47 PM
 
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Please what context?
Are you just slow Fundy, or is there something else that evades your sight?

What does only and especially mean in Canon?
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:50 PM
 
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annhilation doesn't scare me one bit. Is it scriptural that one has to repent or one can be BROUGHT to repentance?

Did Jesus die for ALL men? where is that in scripture?
For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

. 2He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for[a] the sins of the whole world

Here's 2 that came straight to me
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