Are we really being fair to universalism? (prayers, sin, blood)

[pcamps]

Originally Posted by Fundamentalist

and how can you believe unless God allows you to believe?

Eph 2

8For ye are saved by grace, through faith; and this not of yourselves; it is God's gift:

[pcamps]

To be honest i really do not know what he as got so excited about , something to do with believing ? ,he as also got is fundamentalist sister Ilene confused lmao.

[Fundamentalist]

Originally Posted by pcamps

To be honest i really do not know what he as got so excited about , something to do with believing ? ,he as also got is fundamentalist sister Ilene confused lmao.

I didn't want to answer because I am busy but I have to respond, Ilene is a fundamentalist Armenian, I am a fundamentalist Calvinist. Huge difference when it comes to the doctrine of salvation.

[little elmer]

Originally Posted by Fundamentalist

I didn't want to answer because I am busy but I have to respond, Ilene is a fundamentalist Armenian, I am a fundamentalist Calvinist. Huge difference when it comes to the doctrine of salvation.

I guess I've been through both "stages", so I know what you're saying. It's all about a revelation of Jesus Christ, no matter where we are in our walk.

I don't think we could handle it all at once, personally.

[pcamps]

Fundy this paragraph is very hard to follow

On the other hand I must commend universalists for their deep study of scripture unfortunately it is misguided and you too have problems with your doctrines as well and not for the reasons most of you think. Universalist believe in an unlimited atonement, that God saved the whole word (every human being) well here's the problem, the existence of hell makes absolutely no sense whether it is eternal or partial. Obviously hell does exist since the bible describes it more than heaven, that much many universalist can see and sends "Uniterian universalism" on the wrong path of a ridiculously false theology believing in no hell but ironically are on the right path in their assessment of "unlimited atonement", if God truly died for the world, "Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world" how can there be a hell?, makes no sense; why is God still punishing errrr....sorry I mean correcting (personally I don't know what is the difference) people even though Jesus died for their sins as well. As a universalist to believe in any kind of hell "correction" must take away some of the power of "unlimited atonement"
If you read Romans 5 and 6 it will give you a clear explaination of your question.

We will need Gods chastisement until it's no longer i that liveth but christ that liveth in me.

We are being conformed to His image , we are being changed into His likeness and so forth

[pcamps]

Originally Posted by Fundamentalist

I didn't want to answer because I am busy but I have to respond, Ilene is a fundamentalist Armenian, I am a fundamentalist Calvinist. Huge difference when it comes to the doctrine of salvation.

Yes but you both are fundy mental

[Birdy_56]

Fundy: you must get out more!

Obviously hell does exist since the bible describes it more than heaven.

You know the system now....

Search= Heaven

Search= hell

You have three life lines, would you like to revise your statement, or call Ilene or Curly or ILNC or maybe Alpha. Call all four of them: your A.T. and T. operators are standing by.

[I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA]

Originally Posted by Birdy_56

Fundy: you must get out more!



You know the system now....

Search= Heaven

Search= hell

You have three life lines, would you like to revise your statement, or call Ilene or Curly or ILNC or maybe Alpha. Call all four of them: your A.T. and T. operators are standing by.

I suggest anyone wanting the truth call God

[pcamps]

Originally Posted by birdy_56

fundy: You must get out more!:d



you know the system now....

search= heaven

search= hell

you have three life lines, would you like to revise your statement, or call ilene or curly or ilnc or maybe alpha. Call all four of them: Your a.t. And t. Operators are standing by. :d

:d

[Birdy_56]

Originally Posted by I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA

I suggest anyone wanting the truth call God

I knew you were there lover of N.C. Help Fundy out. Does the Scriptures speak of hell more than heaven? How much more eh?

Remember: your search query is not for "eternal hell", just plain old "hell" in all five uses of the Koine and Hebrew?