But Saul, still breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by pcamps

Pauls resume was pretty impressive according to the old man He was one heck of an impressive religious man. I suppose you could say there was not much you could tell him regarding the Law and the things pertainting to it.

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But surely I count also all things to be loss on account of the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord.
This is not talking about the knowledge of the scriptures but a knowing him as in a relationship .

Just a thought

And a good thought too!

[Harold Kupp]

Originally Posted by pcamps

Not demeaning Paul in the slighest .Infact i am saying we should follow his example and make the excellency of knowing our Lord and Savior the important thing in life and the rest of it count but loss.

Regarding your question about Greek , though i find it of extreme importance to gain a better understanding of the scripture , i would easily count it loss to gain a deeper relationship with my Lord and Savior .

The fact i quoted verse 8 again would surely suggest the point of the post , just like Paul said it's about knowing Him(intimacy) whom to know is life eternal

And how do we know if we know Him?

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.


According to John anyone who does not keep His commandments and "sinneth" does not know God.

HK

[pcamps]

Originally Posted by Harold Kupp

And how do we know if we know Him?

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.


According to John anyone who does not keep His commandments and "sinneth" does not know God.

HK

I base my whole relationship with the Lord on the foundation that He keeps me and apart from Him i can do absolutely nothing (John chapter 15). I approach Him on the basis of what He as done for me , i behold Him and as i do i am changed into His likeness.I have absolute confidence in His love for me that enables me to boldly approach Him . Where does such boldness come from ? that He is not reckoning sin against me.


Those who walk with the Lord do not need to shout about obeying commands they walk in the secret place they abide in the love of God