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And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
Luke 18:7 (King James Version)
7And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
Considering the bolded portion so repeatedly misinterpreted in scripture as a reference to special people meeting some test of "Christian-ness."
ekdikēsis autos eklektos poieō
This is a compound phrase employing ekdikēsis (noun)"requital" . . . autos (pronoun) "himself" . . . eklektos (adjective)"chosen". . . poieō (verb) "make."
The only NOUN in the phrase is requital (erroneously translated as the verb "avenge" . . . definitely NOT a noun.) The "chosen" in the phrase is an ADJECTIVE . . . not a noun.
Eliminating the biased view of a punishing God, in our language we might more accurately say
"And shall not God determine what compensation God himself chooses to make " . . .
It definitely doesn't refer to any group ("chosen" . . a noun) with special privileges or status.
"Now knowing this, its ludacris for people who supposedly believe Gods word, cant see or understand why this is [child birth] the perfect avenue for satans seed to be propogated, in that, both elect and non elect are shapen in iniquity, and conceived in sin, in the First place..as though thats not enough to constitiute one as the seed of the serpent.."
It seems to me that other posts I have read from you do not line up with what you wrote above.
You said:
1. both elect and non elect are shapen in iniquity, and conceived in sin,
2. as though thats not enough to constitiute one as the seed of the serpent..
By thats I can only understand you to mean:
- being shapen in iniquity
- being conceived in sin
So your statement reads "as though being shapen in iniquty and conceived in sin is not enough to constitiute one as the seed of the serpent.." And since both elect and non elect were shapen in iniquity and conceived in sin, that would imply that elect were once constituted as Satan's seed. Yet elsewhere you said God never had any intention of saving Satan's seed.
"Now knowing this, its ludacris for people who supposedly believe Gods word, cant see or understand why this is [child birth] the perfect avenue for satans seed to be propogated, in that, both elect and non elect are shapen in iniquity, and conceived in sin, in the First place..as though thats not enough to constitiute one as the seed of the serpent.."
It seems to me that other posts I have read from you do not line up with what you wrote above.
Let me explain how I understnad your above quote.
You said:
1. both elect and non elect are shapen in iniquity, and conceived in sin,
2. as though thats not enough to constitiute one as the seed of the serpent..
By thats I can only understand you to mean:
- being shapen in iniquity
- being conceived in sin
So your statement reads "as though being shapen in iniquty and conceived in sin is not enough to constitiute one as the seed of the serpent.." And since you said both the elect and non elect were shapen in iniquity and conceived in sin, that would imply that elect were once constituted as Satan's seed. Yet elsewhere you said God never had any intention of saving Satan's seed.
And he said i have rejected God because i reject this absurdity lol
The believers flesh / body though sinful belongs to God and is being preserved unto the day of redemption..
being born flesh doesnt make one a child of the devil..adam, a child of God was made of flesh, he was sinful, but he wasnt of the seed of the devil..
Flesh often refers to the carnal mind as opposed to literal flesh since the carnal mind is obsessed with satisfying the literal flesh. It is the carnal mind that is at enmity with God. The seed of Christ is in people with literal flesh.
Flesh often refers to the carnal mind as opposed to literal flesh since the carnal mind is obsessed with satisfying the literal flesh. It is the carnal mind that is at enmity with God. The seed of Christ is in people with literal flesh.
It seems to me that other posts I have read from you do not line up with what you wrote above.
Thats because your confused..and in darkness, nothing of the truth will ever line up in your mind unti and if you become born again..
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How can this be!!!!!!!! Can a man enter into his mothers womb a second time ?
