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Old 06-24-2009, 10:23 PM
 
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So to answer this topics question:

The lost who do not rise up and enter into the Kingdom are tossed into hell's fire that burns forever.

Burn Baby Burn!

We have God's WORD on this...case closed!
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:25 PM
 
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The case may be closed in your book, alan, but many believe and understand the scriptures to teach that God will restore all to Himself, even those who do not inherit the kingdom. God bless.
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:28 PM
 
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I think you are totally wrong about that.

The lost get dumped into the fire...and thats it kids!
No change,
no 2nd chance...
no lesson to learn...
no 2nd thoughts...

The lost are not in hell to "Learn their lesson"

Just burn baby burn....forever and ever...and ever...
Why do you seem so happy about that? Wow!
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:35 PM
 
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Hmmm ... such conflicting views! ......

So is it ... burn baby burn ... or come baby come ?!! ....


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Old 06-24-2009, 11:00 PM
 
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The case may be closed in your book, alan, but many believe and understand the scriptures to teach that God will restore all to Himself, even those who do not inherit the kingdom. God bless.
Then where are these people or souls at?

Maybe this boils down to a physics problem. Since matter can only change form, does this mean even those outside the kingdom will still be there is some fashion?

But no-where does it say they are saved...
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:10 PM
 
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But no-where does it say they are saved...
1 Corinthians 15:16-28
16. For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised;17. and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.18. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.19. If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied.20. But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep.21. For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead.22.For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.23. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming,24. then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.25. For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.26. The last enemy that will be abolished is death.27. For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.28. When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

Ephesians 1: 5-10
"He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace, which He lavished upon us. In all wisdom and insight He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him with a view to an administration suitable to the fulness of the times, that is the *summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens, and things upon the earth."

*summing up=anakephalaioomai=to gather together again in one, to reunite under one head as in Eph. 1 (mid. voice) (Hebrew/Greek Key Word Study)


Romans 8:18-22
18. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.19. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.20. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in *hope21. that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.

*hope=elpis=expectation


Colossians 1:15-20
15. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.16. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him.17. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.18. He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything.19. For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him,20. and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.


Isaiah 25:6-8
The LORD of hosts will prepare a lavish banquet for all peoples on this mountain;
A banquet of aged wine, choice pieces with marrow,
And refined, aged wine.
7. And on this mountain He will swallow up the covering which is over all peoples,
Even the veil which is stretched over all nations.
8. He will swallow up death for all time,
And the Lord GOD will wipe tears away from all faces,
And He will remove the reproach of His people from all the earth;
For the LORD has spoken


God bless.
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:11 PM
 
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no more tough love it will be tough ....................
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:44 PM
 
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Hmmm ... such conflicting views! ......

So is it ... burn baby burn
not very good news..doesn`t sound like a loving, merciful God...sounds more like a brutal tyrant


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... or come baby come ?!! ....
very good news...sounds like a loving, merciful..all powerful creator/Father

so proclaim the good news
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:46 PM
 
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Amen, spm62! God bless.
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:57 AM
 
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When we rise up out of the grave our bodies of flesh are changed.
In a blink of an eye they go from being normal parts of this creation, to being everlasting.

They are different than anything else in creation.
So the normal ways of evolution have no meaning to us then.
we dont change...
Time has no meaning to the body at that point...no evolution....

The saved enter into the kingdom.
The Lost get tossed into the fire of hell...

The lost burn forever.

The fire never stops burning the Lost...

it burns them and burns them and burns them,,,on and on...forever and ever ..and...ever

Vain and violent imaginings of hard hearted men ... Christian Horror ... Pop culture religion.
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