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Old 06-29-2009, 02:55 PM
 
Location: New England
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Do you belong to a particular denomination or a non-denominational church? If you answer that question, I can determine what brand of the truth you are talking about.
He's a follower of William Branham

I at one time believed a lot of William Branaham's ministry , but not with the hateful edge B57 does .

I also believe he was a great man of God and still do , but he was called to preach and not teach and as a result you have what B57 is posting on here.
William Branham
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Old 06-29-2009, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Tucson, Arizona
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God created Satan also. "I created the waster to destroy." In JOB he speaks of the sons of God gathering before Him and Satan was there also. So any child of Satan would be a child of God too. Everything is OUT of God, and FOR GOD and TO GOD.

To speak of Satan and God as having equal power in ANY way is to subscribe to a form of Dualism where evil AND good are everlasting. I believe God allowed evil (even planned it) for a purpose and that when that purpose has been fulfilled, there will be no more evil or death or anything that will cause pain or sorrow of any kind in the whole creation.
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Old 06-29-2009, 06:04 PM
 
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So any child of Satan would be a child of God too.
Thats a lie..
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:49 AM
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He's a follower of William Branham

I at one time believed a lot of William Branaham's ministry , but not with the hateful edge B57 does .

I also believe he was a great man of God and still do , but he was called to preach and not teach and as a result you have what B57 is posting on here.
William Branham
Thank you for that info. That gives me an idea where B57 is coming from since he obviously won't devulge that info to me. Secrecy is standard operating procedure for cults.

I clicked on the link you provided and found this article:

Mystery Babylon The Mother of Harlots | William Branham

Not very surprising and the same old load of crap.

If article is true, then Jesus created the mother of harlots and said that the gates of hell shall not prevail against the mother of harlots. Riiiiiiiiiight.

Where does all this hate come from? Not God.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Tucson, Arizona
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Thats a lie..
God has possession of ALL things. All things are out of God, including Satan, no matter what you think his origin was. There can be NOTHING that did not come from God. That is in scripture...all things come from God.

You evidently ascribe to dualism, exalting Satan to having created himself as well as children entirely apart from God.

interesting
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:05 PM
 
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God has possession of ALL things. All things are out of God, including Satan, no matter what you think his origin was. There can be NOTHING that did not come from God. That is in scripture...all things come from God.

You evidently ascribe to dualism, exalting Satan to having created himself as well as children entirely apart from God.

interesting
I dont want hear all your wretching of scripture..the devil is not a child of God..
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Tucson, Arizona
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You said it so well there. You don't want to hear anything that might alter your doctrine that makes you one of a select few. Someone else pointed out that the elect are to love and bless all the families of the earth. How are you going to do that beloved? What if your great aunt Jane, or your brother or sister aren't one of the elect? You could be happy knowing that he/she is burning in horrific torment for all eternity because God did not choose him/her? Or do you think you will forget all those who don't end up in heaven? That is strange for what was it all for anyway?

You don't want to discuss, beloved. Where does grace and love fit into your beliefs? Only for the elect. Ok, lovely world you walk in.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:28 PM
 
Location: NC
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I dont want hear all your wretching of scripture..the devil is not a child of God..
Do you believe that God created all things, beloved, including satan or that satan created himself? God bless.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:31 PM
 
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You said it so well there. You don't want to hear anything that might alter your doctrine that makes you one of a select few. Someone else pointed out that the elect are to love and bless all the families of the earth. How are you going to do that beloved? What if your great aunt Jane, or your brother or sister aren't one of the elect? You could be happy knowing that he/she is burning in horrific torment for all eternity because God did not choose him/her? Or do you think you will forget all those who don't end up in heaven? That is strange for what was it all for anyway?

You don't want to discuss, beloved. Where does grace and love fit into your beliefs? Only for the elect. Ok, lovely world you walk in.
and what if they are? The armenians say, it is up to us to choose so therefore the pressure is put on the Christian to witness to all of His family over and over, scheming, planning, second guessing, hoping and praying that realistically out of a family of 30; 4 might be persuaded (and hopefully they stay saved) but doctrine of election says, you don't have to do that, the pressure is off, all you have to do is give the gospel which is the power of His word to call the elect in which your family out of 30 has 12 elect who are saved and will remain saved; so in actuality 12 faithfully saved vs 4 saved but could lose their salvation. That is love.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:31 PM
 
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Someone else pointed out that the elect are to love and bless all the families of the earth. How are you going to do that beloved?

Thanks for reminding me. That was me who asked that, and so far I haven't heard an answer from b57. I'll ask again.

beloved57, are you one of the elect? Do you know the elect is to love all his fellow men, and bless ALL the families of the earth?
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