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Old 11-07-2016, 05:26 PM
 
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Old 11-07-2016, 05:34 PM
 
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he did.

anybody that tries to shed light on ignorance has heard him. The Indians understood him better than we do in many ways..

Anybody that withholds rational conclusions because it "may hurt our atheist cause" is pro-ignorance in order to control a belief for others. anti-christ, or anti teaching honestly and openly no matter what.
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Old 11-07-2016, 05:36 PM
 
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Christians didn't get a chance to brainwash the Indians. They were too busy trying to steal their land....
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Old 11-07-2016, 05:51 PM
 
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[quote=Arach Angle;46099215]he did.

anybody that tries to shed light on ignorance has heard him. The Indians understood him better than we do in many ways..

Anybody that withholds rational conclusions because it "may hurt our atheist cause" is pro-ignorance in order to control a belief for others. anti-christ, or anti teaching honestly and openly no matter what.[/quote


My "god" belief is predicated on the stories/lore told to me many years ago by a couple of very old Chippewas. I found their retelling of these stories/lore to be more inspirational than those of the OT or NT.


I have also been told by a couple of devout Christians, that because much of my belief system stems from heathens that I will have no place in heaven.


Think I'll stick with my native friends and thoughts.
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:32 PM
 
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Lycians,

known to others as Alekmani, Aleghani , Allegewi, as lycians but it is Elissia or Elishah 0r Alyshia or such spelling I have shown below .
city states like whatever Petra was called before it was called Petra , or Alesehir (rev 3) , Alyshia ( on cyprus- called Oli mpus and how about tama uli mpus ) on and on .. Eleusian/ Alycione and all her sisters .
the Lord will restore the ancient foundations and the former dominions 'memshalah' , before Menes ? see Narmer's(menes ) Palette for theft of the gentile kingships and kingdoms and the theft and enslavements the ancient ways of a world wide trading kingdom is what he will restore and redeem all mankind back to ) but much has been stolen and used and lied about . next time he wins ... so everyone is in for a shock just relax trust the Lord and pray a lot.


the Lord says
Mat 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
the prophesies God gave of these things are ancient and true. and there is no nation that was innocent and no people who were not all as guilty. so we repent while we can.
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:48 PM
 
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he did.

anybody that tries to shed light on ignorance has heard him. The Indians understood him better than we do in many ways..

Anybody that withholds rational conclusions because it "may hurt our atheist cause" is pro-ignorance in order to control a belief for others. anti-christ, or anti teaching honestly and openly no matter what.[/quote


My "god" belief is predicated on the stories/lore told to me many years ago by a couple of very old Chippewas. I found their retelling of these stories/lore to be more inspirational than those of the OT or NT.


I have also been told by a couple of devout Christians, that because much of my belief system stems from heathens that I will have no place in heaven.


Think I'll stick with my native friends and thoughts.
i would too. The natural spirit and understanding of the Indians runs deep.
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Old 11-07-2016, 11:22 PM
 
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http://maajournal.com/Issues/2008/FullTextSalameen.pdf
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Old 11-08-2016, 05:36 AM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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The Tetragrammaton (YHWH) only applies to the God of the Bible.
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Um, i guess maybe i'm not quite getting you here. So, those other Gods, Adonai, Allah, Unknown God, you think they are different Gods? Or different faces of One God? I have not interacted with you enough to know quite where you are coming from, Matthew 4:4. I guess you are saying that there are many Gods, and YHWH is the Bible God? Like that? I'm curious then--if that is the case, i don't know--why Jonah seemed to attach the same God to the "Unknown God" of the Ninevites? In case that is not clear, what i am asking is, is the Unknown God YHWH, too. Or would you think it is improper for the Ninevites to use YHWH? If you have any insight there, ty.
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:18 AM
 
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definitely not all the real God. some are some peoples dead ancestors.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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Ah; which are those? ty

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The Tetragrammaton (YHWH) only applies to the God of the Bible.
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Um, i guess maybe i'm not quite getting you here. So, those other Gods, Adonai, Allah, Unknown God, you think they are different Gods? Or different faces of One God? I have not interacted with you enough to know quite where you are coming from, Matthew 4:4. I guess you are saying that there are many Gods, and YHWH is the Bible God? Like that? I'm curious then--if that is the case, i don't know--why Jonah seemed to attach the same God to the "Unknown God" of the Ninevites? In case that is not clear, what i am asking is, is the Unknown God YHWH, too. Or would you think it is improper for the Ninevites to use YHWH? If you have any insight there, ty.
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